[OSM-talk] FYI - Creating GTFS data from OSM data

Mike N niceman at att.net
Sat Aug 18 12:51:34 BST 2012

On 8/18/2012 3:56 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> maybe the existence of an OSM-to-GTFS converter could be misunderstood
> by some as an invitation to upload OSM transit data to Google's database?

  I would go further and say that the existence of GTFS data itself 
would be an invitation to upload to Google's database.  Even if I 
instruct the current staff about licensing issues, any new personnel 
would find it reasonable that they should upload to Google.

And the data files themselves don't have a standard for embedding 
copyright information.   This is because Google's Transit Content 
Agreement pretty much requires that all rights be assigned to Google 

   So since the GTFS files include shape and stop geo data directly 
derived from OSM data, my project is pretty much a dead issue for 
licensing reasons.  So the OpenTripPlanner experiment will remain a 
publicly accessible private toy on my personal server.

   As an almost related note, I hope the mobile Kickstarter project 
takes off - my private site will be much more usable from a mobile device:


   If it makes its goal, I also hope they include a "Pull the stop rope 
now" - type of function.  If someone takes public transit to a new 
location, there is little chance of them recognizing an upcoming stop. 
I suppose they could ask the driver to stop somewhere however.

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