[OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

[Paul Norman]

If it wasn't you surveying it, you'd have to verify that nothing remained of
the decliners contributions. Just because someone surveyed something doesn't
mean that they surveyed all the v1 data (for an example where v1 was from a
decliner)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kate Chapman [mailto:kate at maploser.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:18 PM
> To: Michael Collinson
> Cc: hot; OSM Talk
> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.
> 
> Much of this data has already been ground surveyed.  Would it be
> possible based on the source tags to mark things odbl=clean?
> 
> I think that would take care of a large majority of the problem, since
> there has been so much on the ground work since the earthquake.
> 
> -Kate
> 
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>
> wrote:
> > On 02/02/2012 16:23, Larry O'Neill wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> Apologies for any overlap in recipients for this - I very rarely post
> >> to mailing lists, so I am not sure how wide a net for this issue
> >> would be appropriate.
> >>
> >> There was a discussion on the #osm irc channel recently about the
> >> possibility of approaching non-agreers to the new CT about any data
> >> they may have contributed to areas where the removal of such data
> >> could have a negative effect on our humanitarian efforts.
> >> Looking for example at how much data we stand to lose in Haiti, this
> >> is something that may limit the difficulty of those that are on the
> >> ground in these places and struggling to remap.
> >>
> >> The possibility of haing a bounding box around areas such as these
> >> was mentioned - and there is aparantly a precedent for a users data
> >> within a BB being retained.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts, comments, or points?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Larry O'Neill
> >
> >
> > Hi Larry,
> >
> > It looks as though there are no specific licensing issues as regards
> > base data/photos used in Haiti [1]. The issue appears to be confined
> > to mappers who have been active in the area but have either declined
> > or not yet responded to requests to re-license? [2]
> >
> > We will need their individual permissions, the simplest way being just
> > to ask them to respond to the new terms.  Friendly, courteous messages
> > coming from individual mappers working in the same area have been
> > highly effective in a number of countries. I would expect it to be
> > doubly so here. We can then revisit the issue in say, two weeks time
> and see if anyone is left.
> >
> > I am immediately going to ask for a Haiti/Dominican Republic link to
> > be added to http://odbl.de/ and http://odbl.poole.ch/ Then you can
> > just read off the names and status.
> >
> > Meanwhile, you can use the OSMI License View tool to get started. Here
> > is an incomplete list I just grabbed using it:
> >
> > Exponent, Brent Miller, cetest, osmapb1, Tinono, rendle, Tinono,
> > EvaStern, robbert, Sidneyleenen, Elle_M, DDDarek, veugelke, Mirko
> > Küster, Eddy Frometa, Alfredo Gil, Jochen Plumeyer, llibre
> >
> > It is good know their status.  You can do that by feeding them into
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xxxx or seeing if they are on
> >
> > http://odbl.poole.ch/central-america-20111208-20120201-poly.html
> >
> > This wiki page can be used to coordinate efforts:
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
> >
> > Please do not hesitate to coordinate with us at
> > legal at osmfoundation.org . We will do our best to assist.
> >
> > Mike
> > License Working Group
> >
> > [1]. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue (Appears to
> > be only Digital Orthophotos)
> >
> > [2]
> > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-71.35913&lat=18.22309&z
> > oom=7&opacity=0.69&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,
> > wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_m
> > odified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,
> > wtfe_line_created
> >
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