[OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.

[Kate Chapman]

This is going to require some analysis, but I believe all of the
decliners were tracing from satellite imagery.  So the specific tags
added would have been detailed information about those objects.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Paul Norman <penorman at mac.com> wrote:
> If it wasn't you surveying it, you'd have to verify that nothing remained of
> the decliners contributions. Just because someone surveyed something doesn't
> mean that they surveyed all the v1 data (for an example where v1 was from a
> decliner)
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kate Chapman [mailto:kate at maploser.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 5:18 PM
>> To: Michael Collinson
>> Cc: hot; OSM Talk
>> Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.
>>
>> Much of this data has already been ground surveyed.  Would it be
>> possible based on the source tags to mark things odbl=clean?
>>
>> I think that would take care of a large majority of the problem, since
>> there has been so much on the ground work since the earthquake.
>>
>> -Kate
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Michael Collinson <mike at ayeltd.biz>
>> wrote:
>> > On 02/02/2012 16:23, Larry O'Neill wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi All,
>> >>
>> >> Apologies for any overlap in recipients for this - I very rarely post
>> >> to mailing lists, so I am not sure how wide a net for this issue
>> >> would be appropriate.
>> >>
>> >> There was a discussion on the #osm irc channel recently about the
>> >> possibility of approaching non-agreers to the new CT about any data
>> >> they may have contributed to areas where the removal of such data
>> >> could have a negative effect on our humanitarian efforts.
>> >> Looking for example at how much data we stand to lose in Haiti, this
>> >> is something that may limit the difficulty of those that are on the
>> >> ground in these places and struggling to remap.
>> >>
>> >> The possibility of haing a bounding box around areas such as these
>> >> was mentioned - and there is aparantly a precedent for a users data
>> >> within a BB being retained.
>> >>
>> >> Any thoughts, comments, or points?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Larry O'Neill
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Larry,
>> >
>> > It looks as though there are no specific licensing issues as regards
>> > base data/photos used in Haiti [1]. The issue appears to be confined
>> > to mappers who have been active in the area but have either declined
>> > or not yet responded to requests to re-license? [2]
>> >
>> > We will need their individual permissions, the simplest way being just
>> > to ask them to respond to the new terms.  Friendly, courteous messages
>> > coming from individual mappers working in the same area have been
>> > highly effective in a number of countries. I would expect it to be
>> > doubly so here. We can then revisit the issue in say, two weeks time
>> and see if anyone is left.
>> >
>> > I am immediately going to ask for a Haiti/Dominican Republic link to
>> > be added to http://odbl.de/ and http://odbl.poole.ch/ Then you can
>> > just read off the names and status.
>> >
>> > Meanwhile, you can use the OSMI License View tool to get started. Here
>> > is an incomplete list I just grabbed using it:
>> >
>> > Exponent, Brent Miller, cetest, osmapb1, Tinono, rendle, Tinono,
>> > EvaStern, robbert, Sidneyleenen, Elle_M, DDDarek, veugelke, Mirko
>> > Küster, Eddy Frometa, Alfredo Gil, Jochen Plumeyer, llibre
>> >
>> > It is good know their status.  You can do that by feeding them into
>> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/xxxx or seeing if they are on
>> >
>> > http://odbl.poole.ch/central-america-20111208-20120201-poly.html
>> >
>> > This wiki page can be used to coordinate efforts:
>> >
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Asking_users_to_accept_the_ODbL
>> >
>> > Please do not hesitate to coordinate with us at
>> > legal at osmfoundation.org . We will do our best to assist.
>> >
>> > Mike
>> > License Working Group
>> >
>> > [1]. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue (Appears to
>> > be only Digital Orthophotos)
>> >
>> > [2]
>> > http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-71.35913&lat=18.22309&z
>> > oom=7&opacity=0.69&overlays=overview,wtfe_point_clean,wtfe_line_clean,
>> > wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_m
>> > odified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,
>> > wtfe_line_created
>> >
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