[OSM-talk] OSM downtime as protest against SOPA?
ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
g.gremmen at cetest.nl
Tue Jan 17 08:51:21 GMT 2012
If you have been thinking about ODBL and its
function in OSM, the ultimate conclusion is that
you need to support SOPA.
OSM want to have its contents protected (to a minimum, I admit)
by a license (CC-BY-SA or OBL), principally based on the legal system of
defense of intellectual property. SOPA is the just the right thing
to do if you want to apply intellectual property rights to
the internet !
OSM:
Defending IP when it suits us, and reject if it attacks us ?
When do we finally understand that the whole
legal system around intellectual property and copyrights
is principally against free data and free speech, and that includes
CC-BY-SA and it includes all other licenses but PD ??
Gert
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Matthias Meißer [mailto:digi_c at arcor.de]
Verzonden: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 8:53 AM
Aan: Kate Chapman
CC: talk at openstreetmap.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-talk] OSM downtime as protest against SOPA?
I agree with Kate, that we shouldn't stop any HOT action by the demonstration. Greying out the U.S. with a "here was once a land known as 'land of the free' would be a real cool thing, as its a kind of protest thats just possible for OSM. But I absolutly understand, that it's quiet hard to change that within the remaining time :/
bye
Matthias
Am 17.01.2012 00:09, schrieb Kate Chapman:
> As HOT is working on the ground in Haiti and Indonesia this week and
> additionally helping with a flood response in the Philippines I would
> suggest we don't do that. On Wednesday there are workshops going on
> in the St Marc area of Haiti introducing people in that area to OSM
> for the first time.
>
> It is true there has been downtime during previous HOT missions and we
> have ways of getting around it I don't think it helps us move forward
> with people using/updating OpenStreetMap.
>
> Maybe a banner or something instead?
>
> As a U.S. voter I'm sorry about the whole SOPA mess.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
>
>
> 2012/1/17 Matthias Meißer<digi_c at arcor.de>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> first of all, sorry for bringing political discussions to the community, as
>> I always understand OSM as a political neutral space (we do creating maps,
>> nothing else).
>> But some of you might noticed that _Wikipedia will make a downtime_ at
>> Wednesday as a form of protest against the Stop Piracy Act (SOPA)
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOPA
>>
>> As this law endangers the creation and exchange of free material, too
>> ('shutdown OSM/jamendo/.../ as it seems that they copied my property!'), I
>> would like to ask, if we might support the wikipedia action?
>>
>> I have no idea, if this could be technicaly done by the Admins, or what kind
>> of protest (complete shutdown, serving demo tiles, locking database, ... a
>> banner) would be accepted by the most of us. I just like to notify you, and
>> maybe start a discussion.
>>
>> thanks
>> Matthias
>> (user:!i!)
>>
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