[OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

Lambertus osm at na1400.info
Fri Jun 1 10:15:25 BST 2012


Gert, the same problems you attribute to OSM are valid for TomTom 
(TeleAtlas) as well.

But don't believe me, I provide OSM Garmin maps for almost 5 years now, 
so I'm probably 'too forgiving with my "baby"'. It's the users of these 
maps that disagree with you.

A few recent quotes from OSM Garmin map users who emailed to say thanks:
"I travelled for 40 days in 7 different countries in South America abd 
found the Garmin Maps very helpful."

"I was driving last week through the netherlands and it went very well! 
Thanks for your support."

The person of the last quote also notified me of an erroneous turn 
restriction, which has been fixed in the next update only two weeks 
later. For free. I guess TomTom does this much better, no?

Gert, please try to contribute in a positive way. The project really 
won't get better with non-constructive criticisms. Perhaps you are 
simply happier with a commercial TomTom map? We will certainly be 
happier without the constant negative vibes.

In interesting read on personalities and OpenSource projects: 
http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=66

On 30-5-2012 17:21, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote:
>
> TomTom is right, OSM is still a immature product.
> That may change, but it isn't yet.  But for a few Garmins
> serious routing on OSM is a hazardous enterprise.
> Even in the Netherlands, one of the countries with
> a high completion rate, road classification is NOT
> consistent, so are the deafault traffic rules that go with it.
> A router may find a route, but that is it. No comfort,
> no lanes, no direction signs, no traffic lights, and no
> obstruction warnings.
> Many roads (albethem small ones) are still marked pedestrian,
> and inhibit a car router to reach destination.
> Cycle roads are tagged inconsistently or plain faulty, and there
> are many ,many real errors. At the time, before OSMF
> told me to stop correcting the map for something as trivial
> as a license, I found errors on every 20 roads on average.
> Not all fatal, but enough to make me turn to Google
> Navigon or TomTom to get me at my destination.
> Those who state the contrary are too forgiving with their "baby".
> And yes as Greg says, you may correct the errors, but when you're done
> correcting the error, you do not need OSM anymore to get there !!!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert



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