[OSM-talk] TomTom is thumping us

RB tanrub at gmail.com
Fri Jun 1 11:01:29 BST 2012


I recently travelled in Bosnia and Herzegovina and Montenegro thanks to the
maps of Lambertus (OSM). We never got lost and I only had to make some few
coorections (roundabouts, etc) and add a road. we would never had found our
way without OSM and the good work of Lambertus.



On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Lambertus <osm at na1400.info> wrote:

> Gert, the same problems you attribute to OSM are valid for TomTom
> (TeleAtlas) as well.
>
> But don't believe me, I provide OSM Garmin maps for almost 5 years now, so
> I'm probably 'too forgiving with my "baby"'. It's the users of these maps
> that disagree with you.
>
> A few recent quotes from OSM Garmin map users who emailed to say thanks:
> "I travelled for 40 days in 7 different countries in South America abd
> found the Garmin Maps very helpful."
>
> "I was driving last week through the netherlands and it went very well!
> Thanks for your support."
>
> The person of the last quote also notified me of an erroneous turn
> restriction, which has been fixed in the next update only two weeks later.
> For free. I guess TomTom does this much better, no?
>
> Gert, please try to contribute in a positive way. The project really won't
> get better with non-constructive criticisms. Perhaps you are simply happier
> with a commercial TomTom map? We will certainly be happier without the
> constant negative vibes.
>
> In interesting read on personalities and OpenSource projects:
> http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/**?p=66<http://www.zdziarski.com/blog/?p=66>
>
>
> On 30-5-2012 17:21, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote:
>
>>
>> TomTom is right, OSM is still a immature product.
>> That may change, but it isn't yet.  But for a few Garmins
>> serious routing on OSM is a hazardous enterprise.
>> Even in the Netherlands, one of the countries with
>> a high completion rate, road classification is NOT
>> consistent, so are the deafault traffic rules that go with it.
>> A router may find a route, but that is it. No comfort,
>> no lanes, no direction signs, no traffic lights, and no
>> obstruction warnings.
>> Many roads (albethem small ones) are still marked pedestrian,
>> and inhibit a car router to reach destination.
>> Cycle roads are tagged inconsistently or plain faulty, and there
>> are many ,many real errors. At the time, before OSMF
>> told me to stop correcting the map for something as trivial
>> as a license, I found errors on every 20 roads on average.
>> Not all fatal, but enough to make me turn to Google
>> Navigon or TomTom to get me at my destination.
>> Those who state the contrary are too forgiving with their "baby".
>> And yes as Greg says, you may correct the errors, but when you're done
>> correcting the error, you do not need OSM anymore to get there !!!
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Gert
>>
>
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