[OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database - Collaborators

[Jeff Meyer]

Regardless of where the data is stored, is there a general model for how to
use OSM when tying OSM-based info to external data sets?

For example, I can tie a Flickr image (or say, species sighting or flora
habitat) to an OSM way with a bunch of machine tags on Flickr. That is
cool, but hides the Flickr-OSM tie on Flickr and makes the OSM community
aware of this not at all.

The same is then true for the species information.

To Mikel's point - the issue of needing to put multiple tags on the same
OSM node or way is a use case that pops up in many other cases. In my local
park, how (or what) would I tag to list all of the tree types in my
particular park? The geo answer might be to put a bunch of nodes inside the
park's boundary - e.g. node=sitka spruce, node=oak, node=larch, and then
run some sort of query against the park boundary, but that doesn't tell me
a lot about how those trees are distributed through the park, etc...

I'm not suggesting that osm become the world's database. Just curious about
best practices for tying these data sources together, and how to do it with
more of a two-way publishing model, so that if I'm looking at a map view in
OSM, I could understand what other data sources have tied data to what I'm
observing.



On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 8:03 AM, John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com>wrote:

> Mikel Maron <mikel_maron at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I'm interested in the topic, but haven't been contributing information
> > yet.
> >
> > Some immediate issues that come to mind: Most areas would have more
> > than one species of flora, but not clear how to use the species tag in
> > that way. Fauna ranges are often not well defined in terms of existing
> > landuse tags, so not sure if it is "appropriate". Some cases could
> > clearly be, such as a protected area set up for a particular
> > endangered species.
> >
> > -Mikel
> >
> > * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Alex Rollin <alex.rollin at gmail.com>
> > >To: talk at openstreetmap.org
> > >Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 2:12 AM
> > >Subject: [OSM-talk] Scientific/Species Data in OSM Database -
> > Collaborators
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >
> > >I have been looking through the wiki for more information about
> > "appopriate data".
> > >
> > >
> > >I would like to meet more of the people storing information about
> > "presence of species", flora or fauna, inside the OSM db.
> > >
> > >
> > >I see
> > >
> > >
> > >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:species
> > >
> > >
> > >and
> > >
> > >
> > >http://tagstat.hypercube.telascience.org/tagdetails.php?tag=species
> > >
> > >
> > >Any feedback about this is very welcome.  We are just researching
> > this now.
> > >
> > >
> > >Alex
> > >Bogor, Indonesia
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> The practicality of storing this information in the OSM database depends
> in part on how many species you are tracking.  If only a few species are
> being tracked, there isn't a problem.  If you try to record all of the
> species in an area, including the insects and microbes, then you are
> talking about tens of thousands of entries for even a small geographical
> area.
>
> --
> John F. Eldredge --  john at jfeldredge.com
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