[OSM-talk] Making iD the default editor on osm.org

[Alex Barth]

Thank you for summarizing, Bryce.

I'll comment specifically from the perspective of making iD default, which
means in essence, making sure that we're in critical features on par with
Potlatch 2. To have a constructive discussion we'll need to stay on topic.

On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:53 PM, Bryce Nesbitt <bryce2 at obviously.com> wrote:

> Potlatch is not maintained, and seems unlikely to be maintained.  iD is
> the only presently viable way forward.
>

+1


>
> iD is quite slow on older systems, and a suitable fallback to P2 has not
> yet been shown.
>

Any specific issues here should be reported on
http://github.com/systemed/iD/issues . We need to make performance issues
concrete.


> There are concerns about how "cushioned" the editing experience is: if iDmakes new users feel sufficiently comfortable they won't do damage, and if
> iD protects (or at least warns) enough about potentially damaging
> activity.


To this point, ID's done a lot more than Potlatch 2 to provide guidance to
a new user:

- first-time user walkthrough
- inline tag documentation via taginfo
- more comprehensive help (that one was easy ;-)

There are for sure places to improve, but I don't think anyone has made a
convincing case for how iD is promoting worse editing than the current
Potlatch 2.

There are concerns that iD (and thus osm.org) will promote Facebook and
> Twitter, over other social networks.
>

 https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1706


> There are concerns that iD makes deletion of features more prominent in
> the UI, compared to prior editors.
>

Same as on P2 or on JOSM, not relevant for default or not discussion.


>
> At least one user is concerned that anonymous bug reports are not possible
> at https://github.com/systemed/iD


Right, no anonymous bug reports, just like P2, the OSM web site ;-)
https://github.com/openstreetmap/potlatch2/issues

Again, beyond the topic of this issue.


> There are concerns that in simplifying the editing experience (see #2)
> some complex topics are not explained (e.g. relations, multipologons).
>
> We're on par here with P2 where relations go completely without
explanation.

As a quick improvement let's add relations as a topic to iD's inline help:
https://github.com/systemed/iD/issues/1708


> Social features, to help integrate a new mapper into community or correct
> editing mistakes, are not present yet.


Right, they would be great to have. OT.

Sorry for harping on staying on topic here. My intention is not to stave
off feedback, but to make a decision on when to flip the switch
constructive.

Thanks -

Alex
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