[OSM-talk] Thank you

[Alex Barth]

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On Jan 8, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> Richard, (All,)
> 
> I read your email below and it saddened me that you feel this way. I therefore want to write a quick thank-you on behalf of the "silent layer of contributors". We are grateful for the work that all developers put into OSM and please do not feel disheartened by a few negative responses. When I meet up with other mappers face-to-face there is still a lot of positivity towards the project, and any negative comments are perhaps a sign that people are passionate and care about it too. Unfortunately we are all guilty of not giving enough positive feedback and therefore it the negative comments can start to look like a personal attack. They most certainly are not.
> 
> Please keep up the good work - we got over the change to ODbL, we can tackle anything :-) 
> 
> All the best
> Rob
> 
> 
> == Quote: ==
> Complete disarming honesty time: the thing that puts me off working on OSM
> code (and heaven knows I've spent enough time on it over the years) isn't
> the lack of remuneration. It's the community, and its sense of entitlement.
> 
> Something has gone wrong with the OSM community and I wish I knew how to fix
> it. Writing code for OSM has become a really thankless, unpleasant business.
> Most of the Top Ten Tasks, though ambitious - that's why they're in the Top
> Ten, after all - are perfectly within the capability of one developer with a
> vague acquaintance with OSM and a modest design sensibility. (Of them all,
> the hardest is actually being tackled - by you, of course, Paweł!)
> 
> But really, why bother? You'll only get crap thrown at you for doing so.
> Every time there's even a modest layout improvement to the front page, all
> hell breaks loose on some forum or other and there's an outcry of "Why
> wasn't I consulted?". Let's keep the WMF comparison going: I don't think the
> Wikipedia, or Linux, guys consult the entire fucking community every time
> they swap two bytes in the code. But for some reason, much of our community
> expects it, and vocally, without being prepared to lift a finger to help.
> 
> Thing is, if you actually look below the surface of the lists and the
> diaries and the chat snipers and all of that, there's a huge, silent layer
> of contributors new and old, just as there's always been, quietly getting on
> with mapping the world (when, that is, they're not being angry-messaged by
> "experienced" users to say YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG). They're the guys who make
> OSM what it is, not the voices on the lists. But I'm not strong enough to
> ignore the noisy ones, and I wish I was.
> 
> cheers
> Richard
> 
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