[OSM-talk] Thank you

[Sylvain Maillard]

+1

I totally agree, a few negative are always more visible than a lot of
silent positive !


Sylvain


2013/1/9 RB <tanrub at gmail.com>

> +1
>
> Thank you very much from a "silent mapper".
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Richard, (All,)
>>
>> I read your email below and it saddened me that you feel this way. I
>> therefore want to write a quick thank-you on behalf of the "silent layer of
>> contributors". We are grateful for the work that all developers put into
>> OSM and please do not feel disheartened by a few negative responses. When I
>> meet up with other mappers face-to-face there is still a lot of positivity
>> towards the project, and any negative comments are perhaps a sign that
>> people are passionate and care about it too. Unfortunately we are all
>> guilty of not giving enough positive feedback and therefore it the negative
>> comments can start to look like a personal attack. They most certainly are
>> not.
>>
>> Please keep up the good work - we got over the change to ODbL, we can
>> tackle anything :-)
>>
>> All the best
>> Rob
>>
>>
>> == Quote: ==
>>
>> Complete disarming honesty time: the thing that puts me off working on OSM
>> code (and heaven knows I've spent enough time on it over the years) isn't
>> the lack of remuneration. It's the community, and its sense of entitlement.
>>
>> Something has gone wrong with the OSM community and I wish I knew how to fix
>> it. Writing code for OSM has become a really thankless, unpleasant business.
>> Most of the Top Ten Tasks, though ambitious - that's why they're in the Top
>> Ten, after all - are perfectly within the capability of one developer with a
>> vague acquaintance with OSM and a modest design sensibility. (Of them all,
>> the hardest is actually being tackled - by you, of course, Paweł!)
>>
>> But really, why bother? You'll only get crap thrown at you for doing so.
>> Every time there's even a modest layout improvement to the front page, all
>> hell breaks loose on some forum or other and there's an outcry of "Why
>> wasn't I consulted?". Let's keep the WMF comparison going: I don't think the
>> Wikipedia, or Linux, guys consult the entire fucking community every time
>> they swap two bytes in the code. But for some reason, much of our community
>> expects it, and vocally, without being prepared to lift a finger to help.
>>
>> Thing is, if you actually look below the surface of the lists and the
>> diaries and the chat snipers and all of that, there's a huge, silent layer
>> of contributors new and old, just as there's always been, quietly getting on
>> with mapping the world (when, that is, they're not being angry-messaged by
>> "experienced" users to say YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG). They're the guys who make
>> OSM what it is, not the voices on the lists. But I'm not strong enough to
>> ignore the noisy ones, and I wish I was.
>>
>> cheers
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> talk mailing list
>> talk at openstreetmap.org
>> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> talk mailing list
> talk at openstreetmap.org
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
>
>
-------------- section suivante --------------
Une pi�ce jointe HTML a �t� nettoy�e...
URL: <http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/attachments/20130109/fa7cb750/attachment.html>