[OSM-talk] Tagging of private roads

[john whelan]

In the UK there are rights of way which date back in time to the days of
pack horses and long distance footpaths.  I don't think you have the
equivalent in North America.  So in the UK a right of way may still follow
a privately maintained road.

It's probably better to leave the tagging of this to local mappers who
hopefully know the rules/laws and they are different in different countries.

Cheerio John


On 3 August 2014 21:35, John F. Eldredge <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:

> In the USA, it depends upon whether the property owner has given
> permission for public use.  If a private road through an apartment complex
> is signed as "residents and guests only", for example, an outsider driving
> through can be charged with trespassing.
>
>
> On August 3, 2014 6:50:55 AM CDT, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
> wrote:
> > It depends whether a right of way exists. Things are rather
> > complicated in the UK. Private means private, so no entry by default.
> > If you are visiting an address on a private road, you have presumably
> > been invited, explicitly or implicitly. An unofficial sign "residents
> > only" might not have any force in law. A road in private ownership,
> > with a public right of way, can be used though if it is a "byway open
> > to all traffic". Landowners often object to rights of way across their
> > land and might try to discourage their use with misleading signs.
> >
> >
> > On 3 August 2014 12:43:50 CEST, Matthijs Melissen
> > <info at matthijsmelissen.nl> wrote:
> > >On 3 August 2014 11:18, Volker Schmidt <voschix at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> Residential roads in the UK often seem to have 'private road'
> > signs,
> > >such
> > >>> as:
> > >>>
> > >>> - 'Private road'
> > >>> - 'Private road no parking'
> > >>> - 'Private road no parking no turning'
> > >>> - 'Residents only no unauthorised parking or turning'
> > >>>
> > >>> How do people tag these roads? For which of these would you use
> > >>> access=private?
> > >>>
> > >> I would tag them all with access=destination, unless there are
> > >additional
> > >> signs that forbid entering.
> > >> A "private road" is privately owned and maintained, but you
> > normally
> > >may use
> > >> it to reach the properties facing it as visitor or for delivery
> > >purposes.
> > >
> > >Most private roads are cul-de-sacs, but in the hypothetical situation
> > >where a private road connects two non-private roads, would there be a
> > >legal reason you couldn't use the private road as shortcut?
> > >
> > >-- Matthijs
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