[OSM-talk] "Incorrect speed limit" anonymous notes - who is behind that?

[Andreas Vilén]

Did the app have a standard position when the GPS doesn't work properly or
is not active, considering all the notes in several different languages,
that are constantly created in the same location in central Stockholm?

The ones that are clustered around a residential area in a small village in
Sweden are probably created by one user fooling around in his or her home,
when I thought further about it.

/Andreas


On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:

> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 02:22 +0200, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> > The user in question now told me he's been using the Wisepilot
> > app: http://www.appello.com/apps/wisepilot/ and seemed totally
> > oblivious to it being a mystery, and that it creates strange and
> > unhelpful notes in most cases.
> >
> >
> > I'm guessing Wisepilot doesn't make it very clear what happens when
> > someone reports an error in the app.
>
> Thanks Andreas
>
> I have just downloaded wisepilot and have been having a play.
>
> The first issue I can see is that it defaults to km and to change this
> relies on the user digging into the settings. This should be a startup
> question, or just use the GPs to work it out would be even better.
>
> The proliferation of these notes using km in the UK does suggest users
> are not bothering to set it up properly. The km display will obviously
> proliferate erroneous reports for an unaware user.
>
> The speed limit report starts at zero, which is a ridiculous number. I
> guess many do not bother to select the correct limit, but just hit
> report. selecting the speed then replies on the user scrolling through a
> list, there are too many options including 5's. All UK limits are
> multiples of 10, have never seen a km speed limit ending in 5 whilst
> driving in Europe either.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> >
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Andreas Vilén
> > <andreas.vilen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Uhm, no, that's not it... Look at
> >         http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/57.9221/12.5033&layers=N
> >         for example. Also, at least 40-50 notes have been created on
> >         this exact location: http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/215471
> >         That leads me to believe that that position is the "zero
> >         position" of the app used to create these notes.
> >
> >
> >         It would be really great if the person who managed to figure
> >         out what app creates these notes could speak out. The guy I
> >         contacted about this also doesn't seem to want to answer
> >         questions... Why is everything so cryptic?
> >
> >
> >         /Andreas
> >
> >
> >         On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:36 PM, John F. Eldredge
> >         <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> >
> >                 On 08/16/2014 01:34 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> >
> >                 > 2014-08-16 8:28 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen
> >                 > <mdeen at xs4all.nl>:
> >                 >         On 2014-08-16 01:48, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> >                 >                 This continues to be really
> >                 >                 annoying, and the obvious spam seems
> >                 >                 to
> >                 >                 cluster at a few locations, where
> >                 >                 10-20 notes can be created with the
> >                 >                 same information. The maker of this
> >                 >                 app must be made clear that notes
> >                 >                 can't work like this, and users
> >                 >                 would at least be required to give
> >                 >                 some contact information. Most of
> >                 >                 the notes that come from this app
> >                 >                 are useless and will probably stay
> >                 >                 in the database forever.
> >                 >
> >                 >
> >                 >         And the notes may be anonymous, but IMHO it
> >                 >         is prudent to put in the message or the
> >                 >         metadata which app reported it. That way you
> >                 >         don't have to go on a wild goose chase to
> >                 >         see where it is coming from.
> >                 >
> >                 >         Maarten
> >
> >
> >                 If the useless notes are concentrated at a few points,
> >                 it may mean that someone who lives there or passes
> >                 through on a regular basis is alpha-testing or
> >                 beta-testing an app.  I agree that both a user contact
> >                 and the identify of the app are needed.
> >                 --
> >                 John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
> >                 "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do
> that.
> >                 Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
> >                 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> >
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