[OSM-talk] "Incorrect speed limit" anonymous notes - who is behind that?
John F. Eldredge
john at jfeldredge.com
Sun Aug 17 18:47:31 UTC 2014
Speed limits even n4
On August 17, 2014 7:43:03 AM CDT, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 02:22 +0200, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> > The user in question now told me he's been using the Wisepilot
> > app: http://www.appello.com/apps/wisepilot/ and seemed totally
> > oblivious to it being a mystery, and that it creates strange and
> > unhelpful notes in most cases.
> >
> >
> > I'm guessing Wisepilot doesn't make it very clear what happens when
> > someone reports an error in the app.
>
> Thanks Andreas
>
> I have just downloaded wisepilot and have been having a play.
>
> The first issue I can see is that it defaults to km and to change this
> relies on the user digging into the settings. This should be a startup
> question, or just use the GPs to work it out would be even better.
>
> The proliferation of these notes using km in the UK does suggest users
> are not bothering to set it up properly. The km display will obviously
> proliferate erroneous reports for an unaware user.
>
> The speed limit report starts at zero, which is a ridiculous number. I
> guess many do not bother to select the correct limit, but just hit
> report. selecting the speed then replies on the user scrolling through
> a
> list, there are too many options including 5's. All UK limits are
> multiples of 10, have never seen a km speed limit ending in 5 whilst
> driving in Europe either.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> >
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Andreas Vilén
> > <andreas.vilen at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Uhm, no, that's not it... Look at
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/57.9221/12.5033&layers=N
> > for example. Also, at least 40-50 notes have been created on
> > this exact location:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/215471
> > That leads me to believe that that position is the "zero
> > position" of the app used to create these notes.
> >
> >
> > It would be really great if the person who managed to figure
> > out what app creates these notes could speak out. The guy I
> > contacted about this also doesn't seem to want to answer
> > questions... Why is everything so cryptic?
> >
> >
> > /Andreas
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:36 PM, John F. Eldredge
> > <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 08/16/2014 01:34 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> >
> > > 2014-08-16 8:28 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen
> > > <mdeen at xs4all.nl>:
> > > On 2014-08-16 01:48, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> > > This continues to be really
> > > annoying, and the obvious spam
> seems
> > > to
> > > cluster at a few locations, where
> > > 10-20 notes can be created with
> the
> > > same information. The maker of
> this
> > > app must be made clear that notes
> > > can't work like this, and users
> > > would at least be required to give
> > > some contact information. Most of
> > > the notes that come from this app
> > > are useless and will probably stay
> > > in the database forever.
> > >
> > >
> > > And the notes may be anonymous, but IMHO
> it
> > > is prudent to put in the message or the
> > > metadata which app reported it. That way
> you
> > > don't have to go on a wild goose chase to
> > > see where it is coming from.
> > >
> > > Maarten
> >
> >
> > If the useless notes are concentrated at a few
> points,
> > it may mean that someone who lives there or passes
> > through on a regular basis is alpha-testing or
> > beta-testing an app. I agree that both a user
> contact
> > and the identify of the app are needed.
> > --
> > John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
> > "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can
> do that.
> > Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
> > Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> >
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