[OSM-talk] "Incorrect speed limit" anonymous notes - who is behind that?

John F. Eldredge john at jfeldredge.com
Sun Aug 17 18:47:31 UTC 2014


Speed limits even n4

On August 17, 2014 7:43:03 AM CDT, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 02:22 +0200, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> > The user in question now told me he's been using the Wisepilot
> > app: http://www.appello.com/apps/wisepilot/ and seemed totally
> > oblivious to it being a mystery, and that it creates strange and
> > unhelpful notes in most cases.
> > 
> > 
> > I'm guessing Wisepilot doesn't make it very clear what happens when
> > someone reports an error in the app.
> 
> Thanks Andreas
> 
> I have just downloaded wisepilot and have been having a play.
> 
> The first issue I can see is that it defaults to km and to change this
> relies on the user digging into the settings. This should be a startup
> question, or just use the GPs to work it out would be even better.
> 
> The proliferation of these notes using km in the UK does suggest users
> are not bothering to set it up properly. The km display will obviously
> proliferate erroneous reports for an unaware user.
> 
> The speed limit report starts at zero, which is a ridiculous number. I
> guess many do not bother to select the correct limit, but just hit
> report. selecting the speed then replies on the user scrolling through
> a
> list, there are too many options including 5's. All UK limits are
> multiples of 10, have never seen a km speed limit ending in 5 whilst
> driving in Europe either.
> 
> Phil (trigpoint)
> 
> > 
> > 
> > /Andreas
> > 
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Andreas Vilén
> > <andreas.vilen at gmail.com> wrote:
> >         Uhm, no, that's not it... Look at
> >        
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/57.9221/12.5033&layers=N
> >         for example. Also, at least 40-50 notes have been created on
> >         this exact location:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/note/215471
> >         That leads me to believe that that position is the "zero
> >         position" of the app used to create these notes.
> >         
> >         
> >         It would be really great if the person who managed to figure
> >         out what app creates these notes could speak out. The guy I
> >         contacted about this also doesn't seem to want to answer
> >         questions... Why is everything so cryptic?
> >         
> >         
> >         /Andreas
> >         
> >         
> >         On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:36 PM, John F. Eldredge
> >         <john at jfeldredge.com> wrote:
> >         
> >                 On 08/16/2014 01:34 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> >                 
> >                 > 2014-08-16 8:28 GMT+02:00 Maarten Deen
> >                 > <mdeen at xs4all.nl>:
> >                 >         On 2014-08-16 01:48, Andreas Vilén wrote:
> >                 >                 This continues to be really
> >                 >                 annoying, and the obvious spam
> seems
> >                 >                 to
> >                 >                 cluster at a few locations, where
> >                 >                 10-20 notes can be created with
> the
> >                 >                 same information. The maker of
> this
> >                 >                 app must be made clear that notes
> >                 >                 can't work like this, and users
> >                 >                 would at least be required to give
> >                 >                 some contact information. Most of
> >                 >                 the notes that come from this app
> >                 >                 are useless and will probably stay
> >                 >                 in the database forever.
> >                 >         
> >                 >         
> >                 >         And the notes may be anonymous, but IMHO
> it
> >                 >         is prudent to put in the message or the
> >                 >         metadata which app reported it. That way
> you
> >                 >         don't have to go on a wild goose chase to
> >                 >         see where it is coming from.
> >                 >         
> >                 >         Maarten
> >                 
> >                 
> >                 If the useless notes are concentrated at a few
> points,
> >                 it may mean that someone who lives there or passes
> >                 through on a regular basis is alpha-testing or
> >                 beta-testing an app.  I agree that both a user
> contact
> >                 and the identify of the app are needed.
> >                 -- 
> >                 John F. Eldredge -- john at jfeldredge.com
> >                 "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can
> do that.
> >                 Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
> >                 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> >                 
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