[OSM-talk] Drop rendering of permissive access?

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Tue Jul 1 08:46:21 UTC 2014


Regardless of aesthetics, as pointed out here https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/371 the current access renderings are misleading and entice wrong tagging. So either we do it properly, which would imply importing more data, or we drop the rendering.

Simon

On 1. Juli 2014 05:33:49 MESZ, Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>I'll agree with Andy. Don't drop map features for aesthetic reasons.
>Maybe
>we need two styles on the osm.orgm style, a "nice" one for map users
>and
>and "ugly", but loaded with features mappers-map.
>
>regards
>m
>
>
>On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:56 AM, SomeoneElse
><lists at mail.atownsend.org.uk>
>wrote:
>
>>  On 30/06/2014 22:23, Matthijs Melissen wrote:
>>
>>  We are currently considering dropping the rendering of
>access=permissive
>> (currently rendered as green dashes) from openstreetmap-carto, the
>main map
>> on opensteetmap.org.
>>
>>
>> What would be useful would be some comments from the authors of these
>> changes about what they think the "standard map" is actually _for_.
>> Previously the story was that it was "for mappers", but that seems to
>be no
>> longer the case.
>>
>> I've seen very little written justification for this series of
>changes.
>> The nearest on the previous change (
>> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/542) was
>"but
>> I've seen a few "abandoned" railway lines being rendered diagonally
>across
>> well mapped housing estates, and it looks terrible." - which is no
>> justification at all; you could use a similar argument in favour of
>not
>> rendering natural=beach because people use it on golf courses.
>>
>> That's not to say that you _couldn't_ make an argument in favour of
>the
>> "standard" style becoming an "Open Mapquest Lite" - for map consumers
>> rather than for map makers - but something needs to replace it, so
>that new
>> mappers can see the results of their efforts.  Or maybe mappers are
>no
>> longer such a rare resource that we don't need to encourage them any
>more?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
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