[OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap Isn't All That Open, Let's Change That and Drop Share-Alike

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Thu Mar 13 18:53:16 UTC 2014

Besides predicting that exactly that would happen with Wikipedia once 
google started providing WP based excerpts, I don't think that it is 
really an argument pro/con any specific licence*.

WP historically was the sole consumer and distributor of WP data of 
note, in the case of OSM that has been different at least for a large 
part of its history. So in the end it is really just normality arriving 
for WP (if you don't want that to happen then you probably shouldn't be 
an open data project).


* at least here google is now providing regular, well visible links to 
wikipedia, in contrast to what they originally did (tiny light grey 
"invisible" text). IMHO still not CC by-SA compatible, but that is for 
WP to decide.

Am 13.03.2014 17:50, schrieb Paweł Paprota:
> Read this and substitute OSM for Wikipedia:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/01/13/google_stabs_wikipedia_in_the_front/
> <quote>
> The moral is: if you're a contributor to an "open" web resource, then
> beware: the hippy ethos simply marks you out as a mug. Unless you
> protect and license your work, you *will* be exploited by a powerful
> corporation. Because as the Scorpion said to the
> Frog[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog], "It's in
> my nature - it's what I do"*.
> </quote>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014, at 15:26, Alex Barth wrote:
>> Hello everyone -
>> I've been sitting on writing about the detrimental effects of OpenStreetMap's share-alike license (ODbL) for a while and finally decided to, um, share. I've been listening long to many OpenStreetMappers I respect a ton telling me it's not so bad and it's just what we're stuck with right now. But given how bad share alike is for OpenStreetMap I don't think we should give up for pushing for a more open license. Here's why I think share-alike hurts OpenStreetMap and how this keeps OpenStreetMap from having the full impact it could have:
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/lxbarth/diary/21221
>> Looking forward to your comments,
>> Alex
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