[OSM-talk] OSM France "BANO" project... openaddresses in France

[Simon Poole]

Peter

We just had this discussion, and as was pointed out during it, it -is-
possible to import ODbL licensed data (assuming that all the other boxes
wrt imports have been ticked) from a legal point of view with respect to
the CTs.

This does not imply that it is desirable or not in a more general sense,
just that the CTs do not prohibit it.

Simon

Am 24.05.2014 12:58, schrieb Peter Wendorff:
> Hi Christian,
> The BANO data is licensed under ODbl, but the database does not conform
> to the Contributor terms, right?
> 
> That's why importing or adding it to OSM is not possible IMHO.
> 
> Adding it to (the osm installation of) nominatim on the other hand is a
> bad idea, I think:
> IMHO nominatim.openstreetmap.or should rely on OSM as a data source as
> pure as possible. Adding different data sets might be useful to add
> information not possible or out of scope of the osm database (like
> importance factors using the wikipedia links), but BANO is a different
> thing.
> 
> If the BANO addresses are free and open enough for OSM, we should
> encourage to work on bringing them to the OSM database itself (provided,
> they are GOOD enough as well). How should anybody in France get
> motivation to collect more addresses for the osm database itself, if
> anything is available in BANO already?
> 
> Nominatim as well as the maps presented by the project on osm.org IMHO
> should show the strengths of OSM, and not lie about it by presenting
> stuff that's not part of OSM (like addresses from different databases).
> 
> regards
> Peter
> 
> P.S: Of course this is not meant to deal with the software as such, but
> for the installations/instances "officially" part of OSM. Feel free to
> set up an BANO nominatim server to show the strength of BANO instead.
> 
> 
> Am 24.05.2014 11:57, schrieb Christian Quest:
>> I'm happy to announce that we have finished our first building phase of the
>> BANO (Base d'Adresses Nationale Ouverte) the first french adresses dataset
>> available under an open license (ODbL).
>>
>> It contains data from:
>> - OSM
>> - available opendata datasets
>> - automatically collected cadastre data
>>
>> The first experimental dataset are available for download at
>> http://bano.openstreetmap.fr/data/ as:
>> - shapefiles
>> - csv files
>> - github projet based on the csv files (this allows to have diff and
>> archives of all versions) on https://github.com/osm-fr/bano-data
>>
>> This dataset has even been published on our national opendata portal:
>> https://www.data.gouv.fr/dataset/base-d-adresses-nationale-ouverte-bano
>>
>> The global database contains around 17M addresses, and the current output
>> dataset is around 12M addresses.
>>
>> It would be really great if this dataset could be added to Nominatim to
>> extend its geocoding capabilities in France where we only have around 2M
>> addresses currently.
>>
>> We're not pushing the community to import these data in OSM, but to fill
>> the holes in street names first.
>>
>>
>>
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