[OSM-talk] this has to stop: iD user mistakes all over the place

[Tom MacWright]

ICYMI, Richard Fairhurst contributed a patch to fix this problem that we're
currently reviewing for inclusion:
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/pull/2526

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you for dismissing all our arguments in one fell swoop. The
> difference with reported bugs, is that said bugs did get addressed. If we
> are anti-anything it's
> anti-having-to-cleanup-with-no-possibility-to-shut-close-the-source-of-the-cause-of-precious-time-wasters.
> If people were consciously breaking the data, this would most certainly be
> called vandalism. If you manage to burn out the regular contributors is
> OSM, you will have done the whole community a major disservice.
>
> Then there is the suggestion: it must not be a problem, as nobody bothered
> to create a pull request. We are mappers, not JS programmers and how hard
> can it really be to create dialogs to interact with your users? No need for
> external contributions to accomplish that, all that's needed is the
> willingness to stop annoying the rest of the community.
>
> 2015-02-12 0:40 GMT+01:00 Tom MacWright <tom at macwright.org>:
>
>> We also aimed to have no bugs and like every software project before us,
>> have failed to achieve that goal.
>>
>> The uproar about iD is the same as the uproar about the map style,
>> website, user groups, code of conduct, Steve Coast, the board, imports,
>> license change, attribution, and practically everything else about
>> OpenStreetMap. It's not anti-iD bias, of course. It's anti-everything bias.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Bryce Nesbitt <bryce2 at obviously.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:08 PM, Tom MacWright <tom at macwright.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ever since 2012, in the second commit ever, "Not breaking other
>>>> people's data" has been one of the three clearly stated public design goals
>>>> of iD.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This goal does not appear to have been carried out.
>>>
>>> The iD project comes off as tone deaf to breaking data concerns: Look at
>>> the uproar over issues of "breaking data".  Look at the core team response,
>>> which is mostly defensive posturing, not oriented to solutions.
>>>
>>> Why has iD taken such a beating on the mailing list "breaking data"
>>> issues?  I don't think it's just anti-iD bias.
>>>
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