[OSM-talk] Changeset messaging & Notes feature question

[Dave F.]

On 01/01/2015 00:39, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 01/01/15 00:36, Dave F. wrote:
>
>> I'm struggling to comprehend how a button to turn off the notes layer,
>> that's separate (& hidden!) from the only obvious button to turn the
>> layer on can be described as 'logical' to an experienced user let alone
>> a newbie..
>
> Well the problem is that what you see as a "button to turn on the
> notes layer" is what I see as a "button to add a new note" ;-) That
> button was intended to encode the "add a note" action, not the "view
> notes" action.

OK, but however you perceive it, it still activates the 'view notes'. 
Although it adds clarity to do so, it's not essential to the 'add a 
note' function.

> If I just wanted to view existing notes I wouldn't use that button, I
> would open the layer switcher and turn on the notes layer.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how obvious do you think that is to the user?

>
>
>>> The problem with turning off the notes layer again when the add note
>>> control is disabled is that it might already have been on before you
>>> started adding a note, so we would probably have to remember if we had
>>> turned it on or if it was already on .
>>
>>> Trying to figure out what to do if somebody starts toggling the notes
>>> layers on and off manually while the add note control is active just
>>> introduces even more levels of complication...
>>
>> By 'we' do you mean the programmers? I hope not. It's not that
>> complicated! on/off, yes/no, 0/1 binary! It's the DNA of computers!
>
> No I'm not saying the programming is necessary complicated, I'm saying
> it's hard to know what the correct behaviour is from a UX point of view.

I don't really see it as that confusing:

I don't think the 'add note' button needs to turn on the 'view notes', 
but lets assume it does:

* The 'add note' button turns both the add & view layers on & should 
them off again, except if 'view' was previously turned on via hidden 
option under Layers. Then it should leave 'view' on.

* If 'view' is turned off via the Layers menu while 'add' is visible, 
turn 'view' off as it not directly linked or strictly needed to add a note.

Cheers
Dave F.

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