[OSM-talk] name:etymology:wikidata

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Fri Jul 31 17:52:10 UTC 2015

Since all the streets of The Netherlands already made their way into
wikidata, I think it's reasonable to add other streets as well and indeed
it's possible/desirable to say in wikidata what was named after something

Wikidata is not Wikipedia, which indeed suffers from the problem that what
I'm inclined to add there gets deleted for all sorts of reasons. It can go
into wikidata though.

What I'm wondering about though, is how to retrieve the data once again. At
the moment I added name:etymology:wikidata tags to all the streets
referring back to Leuven (a town in Belgium), making sure to add the proper
tags for people with Leuven/Louvain in their name.

At this point it's easy to create an Overpass API query to find all these
streets once again in a convenient way, which I then added to the wikipedia
pages about Leuven:


I have no idea how to go about this when the querying needs to be performed
in wikidata itself, then transfered to an Overpass query to fetch the
actual streets.

That said, I see your point about adding source references for the original


2015-07-31 19:31 GMT+02:00 Lester Caine <lester at lsces.co.uk>:

> On 31/07/15 17:47, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> >> or you simply read the information in wikidata/wikipedia.
> >
> > given that even the street of the seven churches around here ("via delle
> sette chiese") doesn't have its own WP/Wikidata article yet (although
> referenced a lot, e.g. here:
> https://it.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giro_delle_Sette_Chiese ), I don't think
> we should assume that every street will get its wikidata entry.
> Original research needs to be stored somewhere. I have something of an
> aversion to wikipedia simply because work we did a few years back kept
> being deleted as 'not noteworthy' or simply 'rejected'. OSM is not the
> place to document this sort of research, that is the sort of material
> that SHOULD be in wikipedia and cross referenced by wikidata especially
> where the sources need to be identified. There needs to be proper
> cooperation and it easier now to create the missing pages in wikipedia,
> which can then be linked to OSM. Keep each project to what it is good at
> and sort out procedures that direct information to the right boxes.
> --
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