[OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

[Mateusz Konieczny]

I would support mapping existing warning signs, but mapping subjective
opinions in OSM is not only completely pointless and useless but even
harmful.

I am maintaining personal database of issues and problems in my city[1].
Most of it is about cycling-related problems. Idea of keeping that data in
OSM
is for me clearly absurd. Frequently there it is controversial whatever
something
is a problem/major hazard/minor inconvenience.

[1] I am using it to monitor progress (or lack of it) in fixing issues
reported to
local government.

2015-03-10 12:29 GMT+01:00 malenki <osm_ at malenki.ch>:

> On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 15:26:38 +0100,
> Stefan Keller wrote:
>
> > What about crowdsourcing dangerous bicycle locations using key/tag
> > hazard? See http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Key:hazard
> > And see also https://twitter.com/sfkeller/status/574213951644368896
>
> tl;dr: As a lot of others already said: a quite subjective thing to
> map.
>
> In Germany a lot of more experienced bicyclists regard all separate
> cycleways or even footways with bicycle=yes as hazard – with good
> reason.
> Every year a signifikant number of bicyclists get right-hooked by cars
> turning right and their drivers not paying enough attention.
> Every year, a signifikant number of those right-hooked bicyclists die.
>
> Never mind the cars parking on the cycleways, crossing service streets,
> the pedestrians, dogs etc which would make the experienced bicyclist
> cringe from awe while the less experienced are happy to cruise along
> with walking speed even on sidewalks where they are not allowed except
> being ten or younger.
>
> Ridiculous is the mentioning of snow or shattered glass. During winter
> and below 0°C common sense should tell a bicyclist that surfaces might
> be covered with snow or ice and thus slippery.
> Some tags regarding winter servicing do exist although the proposal
> wasn't guided to a voting process.
> For glass and other stuff on highways: everybody should expect that
> on the surface of the road stuff may lay which can harm the vehicle –
> from glass of bottles thrown away by stupid people to shattered windows
> of a car after an accident to nails and screws falling off carpenter's
> car to vehicle parts lost while driving (exhaust, bump guard,
> suspension parts, oil etc).
> Bicyclists may take into consideration that on a road frequently
> traveled by cars the smaller stuff like glass gets cleared away by the
> crumbling effect of the car's tires so that cleaning is in opposition to
> a cycleway needed less often. (Of course the bicyclist shouldn't ride
> to the utmost right of a highway were no cars go and all the rubble
> collects)
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
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