[OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

[Maarten Deen]

On 2015-09-01 13:14, Dave F. wrote:
> That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a
> picture is added proves its irrelevance.
> 
> Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the 
> database?

Why is that relevant?

> The wiki has to be a clear & simple as possible.

Disagree. The wiki also has to go into detail. The wiki has to cover 
every angle. But that is also not relevant here.

> "I see that icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a
> assortment of icons within the page."
> "the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to search on the raw
> data rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map."
> 
> Sorry, but I don't really understand what you've said there.

I don't understand the issue. Why is the icon confusing? Why would it be 
wrong to have this icon if there are people that don't care about the 
XML structure? Other people may care and it is not confusing for them. I 
don't even see why the icon could be confusing. The icon is there 
because there is no specific icon for the value. If you don't want this 
icon th show, insert an icon for the value.
Really, I do not understand your problem with the icon.

Regards,
Maarten


> On 30/08/2015 20:15, Lester Caine wrote:
>> On 30/08/15 13:02, Dave F. wrote:
>>> As it doesn't help anyone learn the basics of OSM, it has no purpose 
>>> on
>>> a wiki & be removed.
>> The fact that there are now two identical icons is a little careless,
>> but that icon has a very valid place on both the original pages (
>> multiple languages ) that explaon exactly what a tag is, and I see 
>> that
>> icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a assortment 
>> of
>> icons within the page. YES is some places it has been used where there
>> is not currently an available icon on the rendering which has now been
>> added, but often the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to 
>> search
>> on the raw data rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map. It
>> has very well defined uses, which may need an element of tidying up, 
>> but
>> if you remove it do you start by wiping the basic 'tags' pages?
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags is a basic starting point and
>> k=v makes perfect sense ...