[OSM-talk] Should we send automated "nag" emails?

[john whelan]

The problem is just the sheer volume.  I suspect in Africa we are looking
at 10,000 or more.  Some may well be old edits.

Yes in time the web sites that show these things as needing corrections
will lead to them being corrected but sitting down and correcting them one
at a time takes a lot of time.  If we can catch them before they upload 50
more untagged ways that would save a lot of effort and I don't know how
much patience people have when faced with having to tag several hundred
buildings.

It's the untagged highways I'm more concerned with.

Cheerio John

On 9 October 2016 at 17:25, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> We've been nagging iD developers for months, if not years, about this now.
> I thought it was resolved a few months back, but apparently not.
>
> Why is it necessary to make it so complicated to draw a building that
> doesn't get uploaded as area=yes in iD? Why not simply default to
> building=yes or warn about the error and give mappers the chance to convert
> all their newly mapped area=yes to building=yes, preferably in one swift go?
>
> No, the validators need to stumble upon it, then tell the mappers on a one
> to one basis about the proper way to map. My personal preference is to
> suggest that other editor out there, where you can draw rectangular
> buildings with just 3 mouse clicks. But that one is considered way too
> complicated to get going with. So let's not use that.
>
> Polyglot
>
> 2016-10-09 20:27 GMT+02:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>
>> If you look at parts of Africa in particular there are too many to send
>> out individual emails.  HOT doesn't even begin to validate more than half
>> the tiles that its mappers marked done never mind the ones have mapped on.
>> So that's where the question comes from.  I'm not saying its all HOT by any
>> means.
>>
>> The question is more because of the quite large numbers is there some
>> better way to handle these.  To catch the mappers before they get set in
>> their habits?  Can we use some statistical analysis to see if we can reduce
>> the number?
>>
>> I accept that JOSM will warn but it can be overridden I don't know enough
>> about iD or other editors.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 October 2016 at 14:11, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 10/09/2016 07:14 PM, john whelan wrote:
>>> > I'm seeing many many ways in the map which are untagged. Some are
>>> simply
>>> > area=yes and I suspect it is not just HOT mappers.
>>>
>>> HOT mappers or no, if there are many mappers doing this then the rewards
>>> must be calibrated badly.
>>>
>>> Ordinary mappers' reward, at least when they begin, is to see their
>>> stuff on the map. A way tagged area=yes will not be visible, hence no
>>> reward. We'd have to find out what (badly calibrated) reward these
>>> people get - are they driven by a teacher, a task manager, some leader
>>> board?
>>>
>>> *This* is what we should ask them - why did you map what you mapped,
>>> what incentive was there?
>>>
>>> Bye
>>> Frederik
>>>
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