[OSM-talk] Looking for "primary language" map

James james2432 at gmail.com
Tue Apr 11 01:10:59 UTC 2017


You could try to look at the street qualifiers ex. Rue, boulevard, cercle,
croissant,etc placed before the street name would be french where as
English places it after the name

Xyz street
rue Xyz

On Apr 10, 2017 9:07 PM, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

> John I meant the name itself: Jeanne d'arc weather you say boulevard or
> Boulevard it's pronounciation should be french same with Des Forest,
> Decarie, Chateau, Charlemagne.
> But then you have really english names like Tenth Line, Pheonix, Aquaview,
> etc
>
> So as I said generalizing won't help as well as south Montreal is very
> very very English.
>
> On Apr 10, 2017 8:59 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Orleans is part of Ottawa and all street names signs are bilingual or in
>> the process of being replaced by bilingual ones.  Certainly the street I
>> live on in Orleans has a bilingual street name sign.  The English French
>> question is very much political in Canada and I suspect much of the world.
>>
>> Montreal has a quite large English speaking community which is rare in
>> Quebec.
>>
>> You could try looking at the street names to see if they are in English
>> and have a second language name as well. name:fr for example.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On 10 April 2017 at 20:47, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well it might not be as simple as you say...take for instance Ottawa.
>>> It's in Ontario and pretty english. There is a suburb called Orléans in
>>> which is pretty much "the french part of town" as most street signs will be
>>> in french, but rest of Ottawa is pretty English(in terms of street signs)
>>>
>>>  So generilizing wont help you much...
>>>
>>> On Apr 10, 2017 8:27 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Exactly, and that's the map I need -- a set of shapes that define these
>>>> region mapping: Quebec+New Brunswick => fr, the rest of USA/Canada => en,
>>>> ...
>>>> The shapes may overlap because that would make geojson smaller - I will
>>>> simply use the first one.
>>>>
>>>> Having this map will allow me to determine the likely language of the
>>>> "name" tag for any location, which in turn make for a better multilingual
>>>> map.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well many countries have multiple official languages, Canada is French
>>>>> and English, but in practice is mostly Quebec and New brunswick...with
>>>>> small patches of french throughout the rest
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2017 8:12 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> James, thanks, but I was hoping for the language regions shapefile,
>>>>> e.g. in the GeoJSON form.  The list of official languages will require a
>>>>> lot of work to convert into the merged shapes, and it still not very good,
>>>>> as many countries have several official languages, e.g. Switzerland.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:55 PM James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Also have you checked: https://en.wikipedia.
>>>>> org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2017 7:50 PM, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> More like French for the entirety of the province of Quebec
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2017 7:38 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know of an open source language map - basically a set of
>>>>> geoshapes with the corresponding language code?  Country boundaries are not
>>>>> needed - e.g. Canada and USA would be English with the exception of French
>>>>> for Montreal area.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is needed to guesstimate what language the "name" tag is in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does not have to be very precise (10-20 MB is more than enough)
>>>>>
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