[OSM-talk] Looking for "primary language" map

Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodrigo at gmail.com
Sat Apr 15 14:26:03 UTC 2017


We build a similar base in the config file of Osmose-QA, it's done for 
country or subcountry area, with OSM boundary relation ID. It's more map 
langue(s) than the official ones.

https://github.com/osm-fr/osmose-backend/blob/master/osmose_config.py#L396



Le 11/04/2017 à 03:10, James a écrit :
> You could try to look at the street qualifiers ex. Rue, boulevard, 
> cercle, croissant,etc placed before the street name would be french 
> where as English places it after the name
>
> Xyz street
> rue Xyz
>
> On Apr 10, 2017 9:07 PM, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com 
> <mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     John I meant the name itself: Jeanne d'arc weather you say
>     boulevard or Boulevard it's pronounciation should be french same
>     with Des Forest, Decarie, Chateau, Charlemagne.
>     But then you have really english names like Tenth Line, Pheonix,
>     Aquaview, etc
>
>     So as I said generalizing won't help as well as south Montreal is
>     very very very English.
>
>     On Apr 10, 2017 8:59 PM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Orleans is part of Ottawa and all street names signs are
>         bilingual or in the process of being replaced by bilingual
>         ones.  Certainly the street I live on in Orleans has a
>         bilingual street name sign.  The English French question is
>         very much political in Canada and I suspect much of the world.
>
>         Montreal has a quite large English speaking community which is
>         rare in Quebec.
>
>         You could try looking at the street names to see if they are
>         in English and have a second language name as well. name:fr
>         for example.
>
>         Cheerio John
>
>         On 10 April 2017 at 20:47, James <james2432 at gmail.com
>         <mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             Well it might not be as simple as you say...take for
>             instance Ottawa. It's in Ontario and pretty english. There
>             is a suburb called Orléans in which is pretty much "the
>             french part of town" as most street signs will be in
>             french, but rest of Ottawa is pretty English(in terms of
>             street signs)
>
>              So generilizing wont help you much...
>
>             On Apr 10, 2017 8:27 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan"
>             <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com <mailto:yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>                 Exactly, and that's the map I need -- a set of shapes
>                 that define these region mapping: Quebec+New Brunswick
>                 => fr, the rest of USA/Canada => en, ...
>                 The shapes may overlap because that would make geojson
>                 smaller - I will simply use the first one.
>
>                 Having this map will allow me to determine the likely
>                 language of the "name" tag for any location, which in
>                 turn make for a better multilingual map.
>
>                 On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM James
>                 <james2432 at gmail.com <mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                     Well many countries have multiple official
>                     languages, Canada is French and English, but in
>                     practice is mostly Quebec and New brunswick...with
>                     small patches of french throughout the rest
>
>                     On Apr 10, 2017 8:12 PM, "Yuri Astrakhan"
>                     <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com
>                     <mailto:yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                         James, thanks, but I was hoping for the
>                         language regions shapefile, e.g. in the
>                         GeoJSON form.  The list of official languages
>                         will require a lot of work to convert into the
>                         merged shapes, and it still not very good, as
>                         many countries have several official
>                         languages, e.g. Switzerland.
>
>                         On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 7:55 PM James
>                         <james2432 at gmail.com
>                         <mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                             Also have you checked:
>                             https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory
>                             <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_official_languages_by_country_and_territory>
>
>                             On Apr 10, 2017 7:50 PM, "James"
>                             <james2432 at gmail.com
>                             <mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                 More like French for the entirety of
>                                 the province of Quebec
>
>                                 On Apr 10, 2017 7:38 PM, "Yuri
>                                 Astrakhan" <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com
>                                 <mailto:yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>                                     Does anyone know of an open source
>                                     language map - basically a set of
>                                     geoshapes with the corresponding
>                                     language code?  Country boundaries
>                                     are not needed - e.g. Canada and
>                                     USA would be English with the
>                                     exception of French for Montreal
>                                     area.
>
>                                     This is needed to guesstimate what
>                                     language the "name" tag is in.
>
>                                     Does not have to be very precise
>                                     (10-20 MB is more than enough)
>
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