[OSM-talk] Wiki Proposals: An OSM Echo Chamber?

Yves yvecai at gmail.com
Mon Dec 4 21:42:33 UTC 2017


I like the idea of voting to praise a good documentation. 
The tools are available in the wiki, so why not try it out on a non debatable tagging scheme (maybe landcover wouldn't be a good idea for a try). 
Yves 

Le 4 décembre 2017 18:47:00 GMT+01:00, Tobias Knerr <osm at tobias-knerr.de> a écrit :
>Hi Roland,
>
>On 04.12.2017 09:42, Roland Olbricht wrote:
>> We recently had an experienced and productive community member, Ilya,
>> putting a lot of time in a Wiki Proposal just to see the whole
>process
>> fail.
>
>there's an important distinction here: It's Ilya's proposal that has
>failed (for now at least), not the proposal process. That proposals are
>sometimes rejected is an inherent part of that process.
>
>I've written several proposals over the years, and while some of them
>have been accepted, I've always learned something from the ones that
>weren't. Just because I'm an experienced contributor doesn't mean all
>my
>ideas are great – and the proposal process is a way to weed out those
>of
>my ideas that aren't.
>
>I'm not trying to suggest that the proposal system cannot possibly be
>improved upon. However, Ilya's proposal was pretty unusual as far as
>proposals go: It had a couple specific flaws which you already hinted
>at
>(such as trying to do too much at once and writing in a "documentation
>page" format instead of describing the changes to be voted on), so it's
>likely not the best basis for generalizing observations to the proposal
>process as a whole.
>
>> I suggest to replace the Proposal process by three more specialized
>> and therefore much simpler processes. They are structured by what
>they
>> can affect.
>[...]
>> === Distinguished Documentation === [...]
>> === Wiki Cleanup === [...]
>> === Tag Disambiguation ===
>
>At the moment, the proposal process isn't really intended for things
>that _only_ affect the wiki, it's always an attempt to come to an
>agreement on how to tag things in the database. So most of these items
>seem to be outside the scope of what proposals are suitable for.
>Generally, I don't believe a democratic process is the best way to
>produce well-written documentation.
>
>Tobias
>
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