[OSM-talk] Misrepresentation of OSM by HOT?

[Simon Poole]

I suspect Christophs issue is more that HOT seems to be claiming
ownership of "OpenStreetMap collaborative mapping". Though I would argue
that the rest of OSM has always been about collaborative mapping and it
is exactly what HOT doesn't do, but I digress.

In any case HOT is clearly not the only organisation engaging in
"OpenStreetMap collaborative mapping" however you define it and should
not be creating the impression that it is and trying to claim exclusive
ownership of the term.  Outside of that, given that we are discussing
the all shiny and new TM3, it would be a could occasion to follow
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trademark_Policy#2._How_to_use_the_OSM_marks


Thanks

Simon



Am 23.10.2017 um 11:37 schrieb Blake Girardot HOT/OSM:
> Hi Christoph,
>
> We can not win if we do or if we do not :)
>
> It clearly says the HOT Tasking Manager, which it is. We were asked to
> change it from OSM Tasking Manager because people felt that was
> misrepresenting, it was not the OSM Tasking manager, it was HOT's
> Tasking Manager, so I changed that in TM v2.
>
> And the major emphasis on "OpenStreetMap Collaborative Mapping" is
> exactly because people also said we did not put OpenStreetMap
> prominently enough. Now it is the biggest thing on the page and that
> is not right either :)
>
> It doesn't say "HOT Collaborative Mapping" because people are not HOT
> mapping, they are OSM mapping.
>
> But, I think we are happy to change that title on that page to
> something else if the community feels it is somehow misrepresenting
> something.
>
> Respectfully,
> blake
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Christoph Hormann <osm at imagico.de> wrote:
>> I recently turned up on the HOT tasking manager page
>> (http://tasks.hotosm.org/) and found the page is now presenting itself
>> tautologically as an "OpenStreetMap Collaborative Mapping" portal with
>> no indication except for the small logo on top that this is a separate
>> project with no official character.  At the same time it seems (at a
>> first glance) there is not a single link on the site to OpenStreetMap.
>> To the visitor unfamiliar with OSM this is quite likely to generate the
>> impression that this is OSM and that contributing to "OpenStreetMap
>> Collaborative Mapping" always happens via HOT tasks.
>>
>> In my eyes this is a fairly clear misrepresentation of OpenStreetMap not
>> covered by the trademark policy we now have.
>>
>> --
>> Christoph Hormann
>> http://www.imagico.de/
>>
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