[OSM-talk] Could we just pause any wikidata edits for a month or two?

Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrakhan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 23 21:14:11 UTC 2017


Andy, both sr: and sq: languages describe the same CONCEPT - "republic of
Serbia".  Both articles mention Kosovo as a territory with the special
status.  So the content is the same, and both can be used to describe the
ground truth of Republic of Serbia. The articles just choose to show a
slightly different map image -- but that's exactly where OSM comes in - we
are the ones who can draw the ground truth correctly, and simply reference
the object to the Wiki.  Or should we base OSM data on Wikipedia?

If we draw two OSM objects - with Kosovo and without, we ourselves step
into the ground truth debate, and need to decide which object corresponds
to the Wiki article better, or perhaps mark both with the same Wikipedia
article. Again, this debate is mostly about disputed territories and how to
tag them, not the Wiki* links.

On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 23/10/2017 11:40, Ryszard Mikke wrote:
>
>> That seems like a problem to fix in Wikipedia
>>
>
> Part of the problem is that some of these problems simply aren't fixable
> at wikipedia.  For example https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> %D0%A1%D1%80%D0%B1%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0 and https://sq.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Serbia are allegedly the same article and https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
> Q403 lists them both. However, as can be seen by looking at the maps on
> each page, they aren't the same geographic entity - one includes Kosovo,
> one does not.  Neither is "wrong" from the point of view of the authors of
> each page yet they can't both be "correct" at the same time.
>
> Best Regards,
> Andy
>
>
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