[OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

Jo winfixit at gmail.com
Sun Sep 17 22:15:15 UTC 2017


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2017-09-17 23:46 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>:

> One thing we should consider is the domain name.  I doubt we can afford
> woq.com :)
>
> These names were proposed
> woq   2
> wdoqs
> woqs
> q936
>
> And these proposed names have OSM in them, so likely are not good
> according to Legal
> wosm  2
> wikosm
> wdosm
> wikidosm
>
> (P.S. Sorry for double - hit send too fast before fixing the first list)
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> One thing we should consider is the domain name.  I doubt we can afford
>> woq.com :)
>>
>> These names were proposed
>> woq   2
>> wdoqs
>> wdosm
>> woqs
>> q936
>>
>> And these proposed names have OSM in them, so likely are not good
>> according to Legal
>> wosm  2
>> wikosm
>> wikidosm
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>
>>> I believe there is a slight misunderstanding, while remixing
>>> OpenStreetMap/OSM/etc in various ways may result in cutesy copycat domain
>>> names they simply do not jibe well with reality.
>>>
>>> Not only does every single one of them weaken the standing of the marks
>>> themselves and make is increasingly difficult to take action against
>>> misuse, they are further uncontrollable liabilities for the whole
>>> community. I gave the example of OpenWeatherMap, but there are others that
>>> would be really painful if they ended up in the hands of your fav giant
>>> tech corp.
>>>
>>> That said, I'm not sure why you believe the policy has broken something,
>>> with the exception of a few local chapters, to my knowledge, the OSMF has
>>> never granted a licence to anybody to use the marks in a domain name. As
>>> outlined in the FAQ we will be operating a grandfathering scheme to
>>> legalize such use after the fact so actually making such use legit for the
>>> first time.
>>>
>>> And yes: WoQ would be a wonderful name for Yuris service and shows that
>>> it is completely possible to break out of the old schema of simply copying
>>> OSM.
>>>
>>> Simon
>>>
>>> Am 17.09.2017 um 15:57 schrieb Yves:
>>>
>>> So, no OpenSparqlMap, then? :(
>>> Sad, this policy definitely broke something.
>>> Yves
>>>
>>> Le 17 septembre 2017 12:58:12 GMT+02:00, Blake Girardot
>>> <bgirardot at gmail.com> <bgirardot at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> How does this relate to the new draft trademark policy?
>>>>
>>>> I can't tell from the draft policy, but I believe that OSM at least is
>>>> a protected mark, not sure about osm.
>>>>
>>>> But I do think Simone Poole asked the community to stop naming things
>>>> with osm trademarks in them or variations on openstreetmap phrase.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> blake
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
>>>>>  important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:
>>>>>
>>>>>  * wikosm
>>>>>  * wikidosm
>>>>>
>>>>>  Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
>>>>>  databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be good
>>>>>  to reflect that in the name.
>>>>>
>>>>>  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service
>>>>>
>>>>>  P.S.  I know this is the hardest problem after off-by-one and caching...
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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