[OSM-talk] Name challenge - what to call the new OSM+Wikidata service?

Yuri Astrakhan yuriastrakhan at gmail.com
Sun Sep 17 23:16:56 UTC 2017


RichardF on IRC suggested "semaptic"
>  take the "semantic" word associated with wikidata and add moar maps
which seem to have gained a few support votes there.   Does it have any
negative meanings in any languages?

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Jo <winfixit at gmail.com> wrote:

> SparklyMapData or SparklyDataMap
>
> 2017-09-17 23:46 GMT+02:00 Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>:
>
>> One thing we should consider is the domain name.  I doubt we can afford
>> woq.com :)
>>
>> These names were proposed
>> woq   2
>> wdoqs
>> woqs
>> q936
>>
>> And these proposed names have OSM in them, so likely are not good
>> according to Legal
>> wosm  2
>> wikosm
>> wdosm
>> wikidosm
>>
>> (P.S. Sorry for double - hit send too fast before fixing the first list)
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> One thing we should consider is the domain name.  I doubt we can afford
>>> woq.com :)
>>>
>>> These names were proposed
>>> woq   2
>>> wdoqs
>>> wdosm
>>> woqs
>>> q936
>>>
>>> And these proposed names have OSM in them, so likely are not good
>>> according to Legal
>>> wosm  2
>>> wikosm
>>> wikidosm
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I believe there is a slight misunderstanding, while remixing
>>>> OpenStreetMap/OSM/etc in various ways may result in cutesy copycat domain
>>>> names they simply do not jibe well with reality.
>>>>
>>>> Not only does every single one of them weaken the standing of the marks
>>>> themselves and make is increasingly difficult to take action against
>>>> misuse, they are further uncontrollable liabilities for the whole
>>>> community. I gave the example of OpenWeatherMap, but there are others that
>>>> would be really painful if they ended up in the hands of your fav giant
>>>> tech corp.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I'm not sure why you believe the policy has broken
>>>> something, with the exception of a few local chapters, to my knowledge, the
>>>> OSMF has never granted a licence to anybody to use the marks in a domain
>>>> name. As outlined in the FAQ we will be operating a grandfathering scheme
>>>> to legalize such use after the fact so actually making such use legit for
>>>> the first time.
>>>>
>>>> And yes: WoQ would be a wonderful name for Yuris service and shows that
>>>> it is completely possible to break out of the old schema of simply copying
>>>> OSM.
>>>>
>>>> Simon
>>>>
>>>> Am 17.09.2017 um 15:57 schrieb Yves:
>>>>
>>>> So, no OpenSparqlMap, then? :(
>>>> Sad, this policy definitely broke something.
>>>> Yves
>>>>
>>>> Le 17 septembre 2017 12:58:12 GMT+02:00, Blake Girardot
>>>> <bgirardot at gmail.com> <bgirardot at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> How does this relate to the new draft trademark policy?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't tell from the draft policy, but I believe that OSM at least is
>>>>> a protected mark, not sure about osm.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do think Simone Poole asked the community to stop naming things
>>>>> with osm trademarks in them or variations on openstreetmap phrase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> blake
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> <yuriastrakhan at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The new service is getting more and more usage, but it lacks the most
>>>>>>  important thing - a good name.  So far my two choices are:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  * wikosm
>>>>>>  * wikidosm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Suggestions?  Votes?  The service combines Wikidata and OpenStreetMap
>>>>>>  databases, and uses SPARQL (query language) to search it, so might be good
>>>>>>  to reflect that in the name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata%2BOSM_SPARQL_query_service
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  P.S.  I know this is the hardest problem after off-by-one and caching...
>>>>>>
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