[OSM-talk] today's tragic helicopter accident in Bavaria

Oleksiy Muzalyev oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch
Wed Apr 11 11:14:21 UTC 2018

 From my modest RPAS pilot experience, I can tell that during a flight 
planning, while using different sources: maps, satellite images, GPS 
traces, Wikimedia images, videos, etc. I kind of inadvertently build in 
my head a 3D model of an area, paying attention to distinctive 
landmarks, and especially to a point of landing.

In this particular case, I could map the control tower also only after I 
saw videos, aerial and ground photos, satellite images of the 
Haßfurt-Schweinfurt airport. After the tower, a major landmark, is on 
the map, here it is, I have got the 3D model.

Human brain works in 2D, that is why it takes years and years to train a 
good pilot. The professional term for a flight is: jump. Aircraft does 
not fly like a bird, it has got limitations of a jump (END - endurance, 
EET - estimated elapse time, ALT - alternate aerodrome, flight plan, 
etc.). A pilot error is not always caused by high spirits or illness, 
sometimes it is a result of objective limitations of human physiology. 
That is why any flight has got a flight planning phase.

By the way, if a smartphone battery has drained, if "Find My Phone" 
can’t locate the device, the last known location is displayed on a map.

Best regards,

On 11.04.18 12:26, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> agreed, I would also believe that the military _also_ might look at 
> OSM (every additional source is always useful), but very likely not 
> for flying aircraft, still, I don't believe there is any correlation 
> whatsoever between a military helicopter touching an airport control 
> tower at daytime and good weather conditions, and this tower mapped in 
> OSM or not. And even if it would have been a thunderstorm and foggy 
> and night time, there wouldn't be any correlation between the accident 
> and OSM (besides that you became aware of the tower and mapped it 
> because of the news). Usually accidents like this happen because of 
> high spirits or someone having an heart attack or similar.
> On a sidenote, I think you overestimate the technology to find your 
> smartphone, you would very likely not find it in the ocean or in a 
> river or lake, or in a cave, or after some hours when the battery has 
> drained, or in an area without cellphone or wireless reception, or if 
> it was inside a shielding containment, etc. ;-)
> Cheers,
> Martin

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