[OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

[Colin Smale]

Java and Javascript have only those four letters in common. They are
completely unconnected in all other respects.

On 2018-02-17 19:54, john whelan wrote:

> JAVA script is used by web sites.  It does not require JAVA to be installed.
> 
> JAVA itself may or may not be a security risk the issue is that it has been declared one by the US government in the past and that means many organisations will not permit it to be installed.
> 
> Relevant because it is a constraint and has an impact.
> 
> Cheerio John 
> 
> On 17 February 2018 at 13:48, Nicolás Alvarez <nicolas.alvarez at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Curiously enough those same organizations and governments then run
>> Java web apps on their servers. Java isn't a security risk, Java
>> applets running inside a browser are the problem. And that's blocked
>> by browsers nowadays.
>> 
>> I don't understand why this is relevant to the original discussion though...
>> 
>> --
>> Nicolás
>> 
>> 2018-02-17 15:27 GMT-03:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
>>> The JAVA issue comes up as many use work machines and since JAVA has been
>>> identified by the US government as a security risk some time ago many
>>> organisations do not permit it's installation on their equipment.
>>> 
>>> Which means in simple terms you can't use the building_tool plugin when
>>> mapping buildings and with new mappers that hurts data quality.
>>> 
>>> Cheerio John
>>> 
>>> On 17 Feb 2018 1:18 pm, "Mike N" <niceman at att.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/17/2018 11:01 AM, James wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> except it wouldnt be multiplatform and only run on windows 🤢🤮. Java is
>>>>> a better alternative as it's a popular language and is multiplatform. C/c++
>>>>> is a bit more complicated and not everyone can contribute.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That's no longer true - .Net is open source and generates multiplatform
>>>> code and the C# language has an open source reference.
>>>> 
>>>> That being said, Java is quite suitable for JOSM, and the security issues
>>>> would rarely if ever surface in JOSM.  The big question is how well does
>>>> JOSM serve as an OSM editor?   Quite well by a number of indicators.
> 
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