[OSM-talk] "The Future of Free and Open-Source Maps" Slashdot.org , Saturday February 17, 2018

[john whelan]

JAVA script is used by web sites.  It does not require JAVA to be installed.

JAVA itself may or may not be a security risk the issue is that it has been
declared one by the US government in the past and that means many
organisations will not permit it to be installed.

Relevant because it is a constraint and has an impact.

Cheerio John

On 17 February 2018 at 13:48, Nicolás Alvarez <nicolas.alvarez at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Curiously enough those same organizations and governments then run
> Java web apps on their servers. Java isn't a security risk, Java
> applets running inside a browser are the problem. And that's blocked
> by browsers nowadays.
>
> I don't understand why this is relevant to the original discussion
> though...
>
> --
> Nicolás
>
> 2018-02-17 15:27 GMT-03:00 john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>:
> > The JAVA issue comes up as many use work machines and since JAVA has been
> > identified by the US government as a security risk some time ago many
> > organisations do not permit it's installation on their equipment.
> >
> > Which means in simple terms you can't use the building_tool plugin when
> > mapping buildings and with new mappers that hurts data quality.
> >
> > Cheerio John
> >
> > On 17 Feb 2018 1:18 pm, "Mike N" <niceman at att.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2/17/2018 11:01 AM, James wrote:
> >>>
> >>> except it wouldnt be multiplatform and only run on windows 🤢🤮. Java
> is
> >>> a better alternative as it's a popular language and is multiplatform.
> C/c++
> >>> is a bit more complicated and not everyone can contribute.
> >>
> >>
> >> That's no longer true - .Net is open source and generates multiplatform
> >> code and the C# language has an open source reference.
> >>
> >>  That being said, Java is quite suitable for JOSM, and the security
> issues
> >> would rarely if ever surface in JOSM.  The big question is how well does
> >> JOSM serve as an OSM editor?   Quite well by a number of indicators.
>
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