[OSM-talk] OSM data, how can we contribute to keep it to a reasonable size?

Oleksiy Muzalyev oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch
Thu Jan 18 18:44:47 UTC 2018


Imre,

It is very good and surprising idea.

I discovered on the page "Error categories" a tool 
https://www.keepright.at/ with the help of which I found already dozens 
obviously misspelled tags. It functions quite intuitively, just select 
"misspelled tags" check box and move the map to an area of interest.

Best regards,
Oleksiy

On 18.01.2018 15:48, Imre Samu wrote:
> >What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a 
> reasonable size without compromising  data quality?
>
> According to the "Lean thinking" ( 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lean_thinking ) we should focus on 
> " eliminating waste"
> Waste is:
> *  Any polygon or  tagging errors ( because we can't use this 
> information, and need lot of space or processing resources )  or any 
> from this: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Error_categories ;  etc
> *  or any mapping errors ( bad street names ;  routing problems: waste 
> for users   )
> *  or any not "UpToDate" data/information  ( old phone numbers -   it 
> is useless,  so it is waste )
>
> some examples:
> http://area.jochentopf.com/stats/
> - Errors: Intersections
> - Errors: Duplicate nodes
> - Errors: Duplicate segments (*~160.000*)
> - Errors: Open rings  ( ~9.000)
> - Errors: Inner rings with same tags as outer rings
> - Errors: Wrong role ( *~ 700.000 *)
>
> some key problems:  ( unused/bad keys is a waste )
> - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#problem 
> ( Keys with possibly problematic characters )
> - https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/reports/characters_in_keys#space 
>  ( Keys with whitespace )
> - or my favorite:
> --- https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/latitude#values
> --- https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/LAT#values
>
> And we have lot of low quality imports we should fix.
>
> >What can I as a map editor
>
> imho:
> Any quality assurance work helps a lot: 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Quality_assurance
> so fixing data problems in your area helps "eliminating waste"    and  
> less waste is good for data size
>
>
> Imre
>
>
>
> 2018-01-18 6:14 GMT+01:00 Oleksiy Muzalyev 
> <oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch <mailto:oleksiy.muzalyev at bluewin.ch>>:
>
>     Good morning,
>
>     I started to experiment with the OSM data [1] on a local computer,
>     and I begin to realize how big these data files are. It takes
>     quite a while to load into the local database just the data for
>     one country.
>
>     What can I as a map editor do to keep these data files to a
>     reasonable size without compromising  data quality? I mean in the
>     sense, - take care of the pennies and the pounds will take care of
>     themselves?
>
>     I could think of the following three approaches so far:
>
>     - using as short an URL as possible,
>     website=http://somewebsite.com instead of
>     website=http://www.somewebsite.com <http://www.somewebsite.com> ,
>     three characters less; [2]
>
>     - correct phone number ISO format, phone=+12 345 678 90 12 instead
>     of phone=+12 (345) 678 90 12 , two characters less; [3]
>
>     - deleting unnecessary nodes from a way (Shift-Y in JOSM) with
>     consequent verification of its geometry;
>
>     What else, if anything, could be done?
>
>     [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Downloading_data>
>     [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:website>
>     [3] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:phone>
>
>     With best regards,
>     Oleksiy
>     osm: Alex-7
>
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