[OSM-talk] Waterway=* and Waterways wiki pages merge

[François Lacombe]

Hi Martin,

Understood, I won't merge the overview page, and will only move stuff
between two page as to remove redundancies.

One additional issue is the "additional attributes for waterways" in the
feature table here : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway
It's not a good idea to put attributes in the feature table since they can
be related to other tags as well.
Can they get removed from this list ?

François

2018-03-23 16:20 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdreist at gmail.com>:

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> 2018-03-23 15:45 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe <fl.infosreseaux at gmail.com>:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm currently thinking about wiki improvement about waterways.
>>
>> It would be great to move (with caution) the content of the Waterways
>> page to Key:waterway
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Waterways
>>
>> This would prevent redundancy and ease tagging documentation maintenance.
>> There are many translations which aren't up to date currently.
>> Waterways page will be redirected to Key:waterway
>>
>> Does anyone have a concern about this ?
>>
>
>
> I am a bit unsure about this. Some years ago (actually 7), those
> "collector" / "overview" pages have been set up. They were (if I interpret
> it right) not thought as specific tagging documentation, but as overview
> pages about a certain topic, with references to tag definition pages, so
> you could find the right tag page.
>
> The key:waterway page should be mainly about the key waterway and should
> contain exhaustive information about this key. It has a reference to the
> more generic Waterways overview page, where you can find references to the
> main concepts and tags, not only waterway=* tags but including man_made
> tags, natural=* tags and others.
>
> Clearly all relevant information regarding the waterway key and its
> meaning, application and interpretation, should be on the key:waterway
> page. If such information is only on the overview page, it should be
> verified/discussed and transferred.
> It is also not needed to repeat all the waterway specific information on
> the overview page, its purpose is different: give an overview and lead to
> relevant tag pages.
>
> I can imagine that this initial distinction may have been blurred in the
> years since it was created, so a review surely makes sense, but generally I
> think it is a good idea to have the overview pages (about topics, rather
> than keys).
>
> Btw., what I wrote is not only referring to waterways, but in analogy also
> to other topics like these:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Speed_limits
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highways
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landuse
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Landcover
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Power
> and maybe more
>
> None of these pages has ever been voted, naturally.
>
> I'm generally in favor of keeping them, but they should be reviewed to
> make sure the overview pages are concise overview pages, and relevant
> information is on the key and tag pages.
>
> They should also get a disclaimer what they are meant to be, so that
> people aren't confused.
>
> Regarding missing and out of date translations: this is the standard
> situation in the wiki, even for the "main languages", with maybe very few
> exceptions. We should care for the English version here, and leave
> translations to the local communities, who could also decide not to
> translate some pages (because they know they are so few they will not be
> able to keep it updated).
>
> Cheers,
> Martin
>
>
>
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