[OSM-talk] We're erasing our history in wiki

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Tue Apr 23 09:45:16 UTC 2019


Am 22.04.2019 um 18:46 schrieb Dave F via talk:
> Was this new/improvement additions or bug/maintenance fix?

As said, it was an addition.

Simon

>
> DaveF
>
> On 22/04/2019 11:37, Simon Poole wrote:
>> The last functional addition to the editing API was just over a year
>> ago, in March 2018.
>>
>> Implying for rhetorical purposes that "nothing has changed" is rather
>> disingenuous.
>>
>> Simon
>>
>> Am 22.04.2019 um 11:59 schrieb Ilya Zverev:
>>> This attitude: “to do well we would need people responsible and there isn’t any; you can do your thing without OSM infrastructure so why bother; nobody died, stop your hype and comply” — is why we’re still with API 0.6 ten years after it was introduced.
>>>
>>> Ilya
>>>
>>>> On 22 Apr 2019, at 09:35, Jochen Topf <jochen at remote.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 12:03:40AM +0300, Ilya Zverev wrote:
>>>>> In my research of API 0.6 (which turned ten years old yesterday) I've
>>>>> stumbled on this page:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API_v0.6/Crowd_sourced_Testing
>>>>>
>>>>> It was deleted 7 years ago. And this is a disaster. The page was an
>>>>> important milestone in our history: authors, dates, items on it could bring
>>>>> some more information on how our current API was rolled out. Nothing is
>>>>> left.
>>>> It was deleted an yet you have found it. So not a huge desaster after
>>>> all.
>>>>
>>>>> Please, could we have a deletion policy in our wiki that clearly states "No
>>>>> obsolete pages here", forbidding deletion of anything except spam or
>>>>> otherwise harmful pages? Deleting our history is plain vandalism, no better
>>>>> than physically destroying pieces of human history displayed in museums.
>>>> Isn't that a bit of hype here...
>>>>
>>>>> It's not like we're pressed for disk space there.
>>>> No, we aren't. But we are pressed for time and human attention. Of we
>>>> had curators who keep important things organized and findable we could
>>>> keep things forever. But as it is, all the obsolete crap keeps us from
>>>> finding and working with what we need now.
>>>>
>>>>> Thank internet gods for the Internet Archive,
>>>> Not the gods but some good people who had a good idea. Let them do their
>>>> job and keep the history and lets do our job and keep the momentum in
>>>> the project instead of spending our time looking back.
>>>>
>>>> Jochen
>>>> -- 
>>>> Jochen Topf  jochen at remote.org  https://www.jochentopf.com/  +49-351-31778688
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