[OSM-talk] Just email direclty | Re: Sharing, Facebook, mapwithai_feedback

Nuno Caldeira nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com
Tue Aug 6 17:27:20 UTC 2019

Às 17:56 de 06/08/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
> **Just a fyi that Dristie is a woman. She was at SotM last year and 
> quite nice to chat with.
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:22 AM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com 
> <mailto:steveaOSM at softworkers.com>> wrote:
>     SteveA
>     > On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org
>     <mailto:rory at technomancy.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     > I think we'll just have to CC osm at fb.com <mailto:osm at fb.com> and
>     forward all replies to this list. Facebook won't engage.
If it's fragmented, it's not our fault, we already have our community 
communications established for years. Even newer ways of communications 
(like Telegram groups) are well documented.

About not being heard, did the electronic postman lost my emails to 
osm at fb.com of the 10th of October 2018, the one from 6th of December 
2018 (which i CC to legal at osmfoundation.org, 
legal-questions at osmfoundation.org) and the one from 6th of January 2019 
(also CC to Mapbox, legal at osmfoundation.org, 
legal-questions at osmfoundation.org)?

I don't buy that talk, not replying to emails asking for simple things 
and ignoring is bad. Worst, some things are still like they were months 
ago. As example OSM maps being attributed to HERE.

Actions speaker louder than words.

There's nothing complex, the license, guidelines are well explicit and 
they are even Corporate Members of OSMF, they surely are aware of how to 
proceed. Ignoring emails for months is not building bridges. Also has 
Facebook legal dept managed to review our attribution issue? That's what 
they said to me on October 2018 (10 months ago). Do we really need to 
send for legal review, when as OSMF corporate members they must:

>       Foundation and community expectations
> We expect Corporate Members to conduct themselves as good citizens of 
> the OpenStreetMap ecosystem, e.g. by complying with our attribution 
> requirements (Licence and Legal FAQ 
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Licence_and_Legal_FAQ>), 
> following good editing practice and adhering to the community's 
> guidelines, such as the Licence/Community Guidelines 
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines> and 
> the Organised Editing Guidelines 
> <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Organised_Editing_Guidelines>.


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