[OSM-talk] Just email direclty | Re: Sharing, Facebook, mapwithai_feedback

Kathleen Lu kathleen.lu at mapbox.com
Tue Aug 6 16:56:30 UTC 2019

**Just a fyi that Dristie is a woman. She was at SotM last year and quite
nice to chat with.

On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:22 AM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:

> As Michal/Mike suggested, I did reply to DrishT's diary page and DrishT
> quickly replied.  He was conciliatory, saying "the team has been engaging
> in as many places as possible where we get reach outs with questions" and
> he agrees that "community communications (about this topic / these topics)
> are fragmented."  Although, I haven't seem DrishT or anybody who directly
> identifies themselves from Facebook engage the community (as narrow a slice
> as it may be) here (on this "talk channel"), it does appear that
> "engagement" is happening in other forums / channels.  That seems positive
> to me (and I'm somewhat skeptical of all of this and can be somewhat harsh
> in my criticism when I find any).
> I'm ready to pay some significant attention to opinions of those like Rory
> and Nuno who seem to indicate that Facebook publicly says one thing, but
> their actions (and how they reply / respond and engage) say another.  I am
> disheartened to hear that some people feel like they haven't been heard /
> aren't being replied to by Facebook (or their representatives), as that was
> not my recent experience.
> As might have been predicted, this is a complex topic with many channels /
> methods of communications, messages, past experiences, assumptions and
> opinions flying around, it can be difficult to untangle them all, and it
> can be easy to jump to conclusions and experience misunderstandings.  Let
> us be patient with one another, stick to facts and do our best to sort out
> as many of the issues as we can.  What appears to be happening here and now
> is that better "cross-pollination" avenues of communication are being
> explored and some "road is being paved" in that direction, that seems like
> a good thing.
> Rory, if it helps, it appears that DrishT engages relatively quickly (as a
> "somewhat representative member of the Facebook community working on this
> AI project").  If you feel as if you are not heard (or "less than heard"),
> I recently had a quick reply there (
> https://www.osm.org/user/DrishT/diary/368711 ); good luck.
> SteveA
> > On Aug 5, 2019, at 11:55 PM, Rory McCann <rory at technomancy.org> wrote:
> >
> > I think we'll just have to CC osm at fb.com and forward all replies to
> this list. Facebook won't engage.
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