[OSM-talk] Attribution guideline status update
Nuno Caldeira
nunocapelocaldeira at gmail.com
Fri Aug 9 17:17:08 UTC 2019
So you are saying that when we switched from CC to ODbL, the bellow
quote was not true?
> Both licenses are “By Attribution” and “Share Alike”.
https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Historic/We_Are_Changing_The_License#What_are_the_main_differences_between_the_old_and_the_new_license.3F
Also the license is clear, anyone that views, i don't have to interact
to acknowledge the notice.
Às 18:08 de 09/08/2019, Kathleen Lu escreveu:
>
> Guidelines by the licensor
>
>> On legal advice, *what a Licensor says carries weight with users
>> of our data and, potentially, to a judge*. A court would make a
>> final decision on the issue, however we hope these guidelines are
>> helpful to *avoid *disputes arising in the first place and can be
>> considered by the courts in coming to their verdict.
>
> from https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines
>
>
> Nuno, you are quoting this like it's the law, but what you have quoted
> here isn't the *law*, it's what *OSMF* thinks *might* happen and what
> motivates OSMF to put out guidelines. Frankly, OSMF can choose to
> change the language you have quoted as a part of changing the guidelines!
> Under the law, the licensor's opinion, as one party to the contract,
> is taken into consideration. However, it is *not* the only thing that
> matters. The words of the licence matter more, and if there is a
> conflict between what the licensor thinks and what the licence says,
> the words of the licence will control. In that case, the licensor is
> simply "wrong" (and there are plenty of cases where that was the end
> result).
> You are right that we hope to avoid disputes by setting out reasonable
> guidelines, but if OSMF sets out guidelines that are unreasonable and
> not tied to the language of the licence, then no one, either users of
> the data or judges, will listen to OSMF, and, under the law, rightly so.
>
>
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