[OSM-talk] Facebook mapping highways using AI in collaboration with OpenStreetMap

stevea steveaOSM at softworkers.com
Wed Jul 31 18:55:32 UTC 2019

Right (or nearly right, imo), Kathy:  thank you for your reply.

I didn't say OSM absolutely DOES have high quality.  In my last decade of mapping here, I certainly have seen it get better (in pockets) as well as worse (in smaller pockets), so on the whole, it gets better / higher quality.  What I did say is that OSM absolutely "CAN have high quality without AI."  We must strive to do so, knowing that we sometimes miss the mark.  But including AI without hawkish attention to quality is folly,

Just because, as you say (and I agree), that "human mappers have not been able to produce high quality maps worldwide" doesn't mean that we can't, we simply must strive to do better.  And we do.  And we should using available tools like AI, though if we do, we absolutely must include a strong component of human-oriented quality assurance right at the forefront of doing so.

It sounds like we largely agree.  Provided we keep quality at the top of our consciousness as we do so, whether we use AI or not.

I appreciate the opportunity to share dialog,

> On Jul 31, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Kathleen Lu <kathleen.lu at mapbox.com> wrote:
> I agree that human wisdom is critical to high quality, and AI isn't useful if, at the end of the process, it doesn't produce quality output, but I will challenge this statement: "you can have high quality without AI." I don't think that's definitively true for a global map. It's very difficult to keep something at that scale that is constantly changing up to date, and while OSM is very high quality in some areas, human mappers have not been able to produce high quality maps worldwide. Corporations that use traditional survey techniques also have a lot of difficulty even while spending $$$ (and many if not all of them are also using AI). AI can augment human mapping in ways to make scale more manageable, and I think both will be needed to make a worldwide high quality map.  
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 10:26 AM stevea <steveaOSM at softworkers.com> wrote:
> Oops, "social conscience." (not conscious)
> SteveA
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