[OSM-talk] Wikibase items instead of usual templates for wiki pages?

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Sun Jun 9 14:46:45 UTC 2019

That helps, but it's hard to see, and invisible when images are turned off.

(I usually browse the wiki without images to save on data, and I also
think that blind users should be able to understand and navigate
without needing to interpret images.

Here's the history for the wikibase data item "Q7676" which apparently
means "natural=peninsula":


There are 37 changes in the last 6 months, half of them bot edits by "Yurikbot"

How is this easier to use, edit or understand than the regular wiki
pages? It's certainly not easier to find.

On 6/9/19, Andrew Hain <andrewhainosm at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Every tag documentation page has a grey pencil icon next to the description
> to edit the data message. Maybe it could be made clearer.
> --
> Andrew
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com>
> Sent: 09 June 2019 12:59
> To: osm
> Subject: [OSM-talk] Wikibase items instead of usual templates for wiki
> pages?
> While checking out the Map Features osm wiki pages, I noticed a few
> items that were missing descriptions or had very short,
> self-referrential ones (eg. "A peninsula" for natural=peninsula and
> "An isthmus" for natural=isthmus), even though the wiki page actually
> has a good description, which was approved as part of the proposal
> process for each feature.
> When I edited the pages to add the description to the usual template
> (the ValueDescription template), I was surprised to see that this box
> was missing. I ended up reverting the last edits which removed the
> box, so that I could edit it.
> I was then informed that there is now a "data item" in a tool called
> "wikibase" where this information can be edited. Another osm wiki user
> thought this is now the correct place to store information like a tag
> description.
> Has this wikibase feature been discussed and approved by the community
> in some forum? Perhaps it happened before I was involved with OSM? I
> don't quite understand how it works.
> Description of wikibase data items (rather confusing to me):
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_items
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