[OSM-talk] We need to have a conversation about attribution

Mateusz Konieczny matkoniecz at tutanota.com
Fri Mar 1 09:48:54 UTC 2019




Feb 28, 2019, 11:35 PM by richard at systemeD.net:

> This response might be:
>
> a) we are happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we will update our requirements to say so
> b) we will informally tolerate attribution being behind a credits screen but we do not intend to update our requirements
> c) we are not happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we will update our requirements to say so
> d) we are not happy for attribution to be behind a credits screen and we will update our requirements to say so, and we will proactively seek out data consumers that contravene these requirements
> e) or many other options... fill in your suggestion here :)
>
> Ultimately this decision has to come from the community. The rights in OSM data, as the Contributor Terms makes clear, are held by the contributors. OSMF is "using and sublicensing" it, under the terms that you grant to OSMF, but you own the rights. OSMF is not able to license away the rights of mappers.
>
> There has been a lot of chatter over recent years about this issue but the issue has never really broken through. Let's talk about it openly, honestly and respectfully and get it sorted out for the benefit of both mappers and data consumers.
>
a) would require changing license again, right?

ODBL has 

"You must include a notice associated with
 the Produced Work reasonably calculated to make any Person that uses,
 views, accesses, interacts with, or is otherwise exposed to the Produced
 Work aware that Content was obtained from the Database, Derivative
 Database, or the Database as part of a Collective Database, and that it
 is available under this License."

from what I see 
athttps://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/ <https://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/>

b) is the worst one, it is hard to treat seriously ones who do it

c) I recommend doing this, I tried mailing Mapbox about their license-breaking
hiding attribution but at first their responded claiming that OSBL allows that,
after quoting that part of them they went back to not responding

d) what would be our options for especially stubborn ones? DMCA filed by OSMF?
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