[OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

[Phil Wyatt]

Hi Folks,

As a relatively new OSM editor, I tend to agree with the explicit tagging rather than implicit - it should help folks learn tags much faster

Cheers - Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: Wiklund Johan [mailto:johan.wiklund at entur.org] 
Sent: Friday, 24 May 2019 6:28 PM
To: Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

As a frequent mapper of public transport features, I agree with the opinions of Markus. Adding footway to the platform serves no purpose but to please poorly built routing engines.

Regards

Johan Wiklund
Data manager 
johan.wiklund at entur.org
www.entur.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Markus [mailto:selfishseahorse at gmail.com] 
Sent: torsdag 23. mai 2019 18.11
To: Talk <talk at openstreetmap.org>
Cc: Bryan Housel <bryan at mapbox.com>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Remove validation rule asking to add highway=footway to railway/public_transport=platform

Hello Bryan, hello everyone,

I'm posting this reply to Bryan's message on GitHub
(https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6409#issuecomment-495231649)
here, as the issue has been locked by Bryan.

> Hey all, I've locked this topic. Inviting other people to jump on the thread just to express disagreement is not very helpful.

While i really appreciate the work you and the other developers have put into iD, i find it demotivating and harmful that you refuse other opinions.

> Some people will disagree, and that's ok.

So far, everybody except you disagreed. If there is a clear majority, i expect the iD developers to follow it.

Moreover, this validation rule infringes upon these policies or guidelines:

* Automated Edits code of conduct
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct):
You take advantage of mappers unconsciously adding highway=footway to platforms. This is an automated edit.
* Map what's on the ground
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Map_what.27s_on_the_ground):
A platform is not a footway.
* Don't map for the renderer
(https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice#Don.27t_map_for_the_renderer):
It's rater "don't map for the router", but the effect is the same.

> There exists no master list of all the routable features in OSM. This is because people are always making up tags. It is unreasonable to expect mappers and data consumers to "just know" what all the tags are that are routable.

If the problem is the lack of a list of all routable features in OSM, then it should be solved by creating such a list, not by mapping for the router. (By the way, routable tags aren't added very frequently.) I guess it should also be possible to create a "routable" property for Wikibase (data items).

I kindly ask you to reconsider your decision, to not block opinions that differ from yours and to listen more to the community.

Best regards

Markus

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