[OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

Nick Whitelegg nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk
Fri May 31 20:13:13 UTC 2019


Hello Kathleen and Milo,

Thanks!


No-one besides myself has uploaded anything yet, so happy to change to ODbL. The panoramas are a different dataset to OSM however, now I think about it, it could well be they are a 'derived work' as the OSM map helps users to position them - so fine with the license change.


Nick

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From: Kathleen Lu <kathleen.lu at mapbox.com>
Sent: 31 May 2019 19:31:52
To: Milo van der Linden
Cc: Nick Whitelegg; OSM Talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

Looks neat, Nick!

I will say that given that OSM is under ODbL, which is not compatible with CC-BY-SA (see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility) I would suggest that you consider using ODbL as the license instead of CC-BY-SA.

Best,
Kathleen

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:22 AM Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net<mailto:milo at dogodigi.net>> wrote:
Cool! It looks and interacts awesome.

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 18:43 Nick Whitelegg <nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk<mailto:nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>> wrote:

Thanks! Actually used Pannellum: https://pannellum.org/


<https://pannellum.org/>

Note that there is one little issue, which I thought I'd resolved, but has recurred today, and *might* be down to Pannellum: occasionally (and inconsistently, i.e. there isn't a sequence of actions which causes it to happen) if you click on a camera icon when in map mode it doesn't load the panorama. Most of the time it's fine though.



Nick

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From: Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net<mailto:milo at dogodigi.net>>
Sent: 31 May 2019 17:20:57
To: Nick Whitelegg
Cc: osm-talk
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

Nice! Did you create your own panoviewer or did you use https://www.marzipano.net/?

Op vr 31 mei 2019 om 13:46 schreef Nick Whitelegg <nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk<mailto:nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>>:


Hi,


Some of you are probably aware that way back in 2010 I started developing OpenTrailView , which aims to be a StreetView-like web application but focusing on off-road routes such as hiking trails, with crowd-sourced panoramas.


Recently, due to the increasing availability of 360 cameras and the appearance of mature panorama APIs (e.g. Pannellum) and client-side routing APIs (GeoJSON Path Finder) I have restarted work on OpenTrailView and did an initial presentation at FOSDEM 2019 back in February.


Since then I have done further work and OpenTrailView, while still incomplete, is in a state where I believe it's ready to start receiving contributions.


It's available at

https://www.opentrailview.org/


You can get an idea of how it allows you to 'walk' along OSM ways by navigating in the default area (Southampton Common). There are also some panoramas available close to Fernhurst, West Sussex (lat 51.05, lon -0.72). There's a Nominatim search available if you switch to 'map' mode (see the map icon).


If you signup and then login, you can contribute your own 360 panos. Obviously follow the usual privacy considerations (no faces, no car number plates) - panos will be moderated before they go live to ensure they do not have any privacy violations amongst other things.


The key thing about this version is that it will use underlying OSM data to auto-connect panoramas. This was not done on any previous version.


However, note that while the site will accept panos anywhere in the world, at present, the auto-connection facility will only work in *Europe* plus Turkey (I am using the Europe Geofabrik extract), as my server currently only stores European data. Nonetheless I have had a possible offer of helping with hosting costs so expansion to the entire world could well happen soon.


The maps provided are rather basic, showing only highways, coastlines and a few selected POIs, this is due to server capacity constraints. If anyone is aware of a tile server I can use legitimately as a replacement, without violating the usage policy, please let me know.


In similar style to OSM, panos will be copyright 'OTV360 contributors' and licensed under CC-by-SA. IANAL but this seems to be the most common practice.


Do remember once again that this is an unfinished product but it is now in a state where I believe it is of interest to contributors.


Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/nickw1/opentrailview/


Thanks,

Nick





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