[OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application for hikers

Milo van der Linden milo at dogodigi.net
Fri May 31 23:42:27 UTC 2019


Kathleen has a good point, it is important to choose a good license if you
want to use photos by others too. And it is good to discuss the license
early in your project.

Kind regards,

Milo

On Fri, May 31, 2019, 22:13 Nick Whitelegg <nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>
wrote:

>
> Hello Kathleen and Milo,
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> No-one besides myself has uploaded anything yet, so happy to change to
> ODbL. The panoramas are a different dataset to OSM however, now I think
> about it, it could well be they are a 'derived work' as the OSM map helps
> users to position them - so fine with the license change.
>
>
> Nick
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Kathleen Lu <kathleen.lu at mapbox.com>
> *Sent:* 31 May 2019 19:31:52
> *To:* Milo van der Linden
> *Cc:* Nick Whitelegg; OSM Talk
> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application
> for hikers
>
> Looks neat, Nick!
>
> I will say that given that OSM is under ODbL, which is not compatible with
> CC-BY-SA (see
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/ODbL_Compatibility) I would
> suggest that you consider using ODbL as the license instead of CC-BY-SA.
>
> Best,
> Kathleen
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 10:22 AM Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net>
> wrote:
>
> Cool! It looks and interacts awesome.
>
> On Fri, May 31, 2019, 18:43 Nick Whitelegg <nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks! Actually used Pannellum: https://pannellum.org/
>
>
> <https://pannellum.org/>
>
> Note that there is one little issue, which I thought I'd resolved, but has
> recurred today, and *might* be down to Pannellum: occasionally (and
> inconsistently, i.e. there isn't a sequence of actions which causes it to
> happen) if you click on a camera icon when in map mode it doesn't load the
> panorama. Most of the time it's fine though.
>
>
>
> Nick
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Milo van der Linden <milo at dogodigi.net>
> *Sent:* 31 May 2019 17:20:57
> *To:* Nick Whitelegg
> *Cc:* osm-talk
> *Subject:* Re: [OSM-talk] OpenTrailView 360 - StreetView-like application
> for hikers
>
> Nice! Did you create your own panoviewer or did you use
> https://www.marzipano.net/?
>
> Op vr 31 mei 2019 om 13:46 schreef Nick Whitelegg <
> nick.whitelegg at solent.ac.uk>:
>
>
> Hi,
>
>
> Some of you are probably aware that way back in 2010 I started developing
> OpenTrailView , which aims to be a StreetView-like web application but
> focusing on off-road routes such as hiking trails, with crowd-sourced
> panoramas.
>
>
> Recently, due to the increasing availability of 360 cameras and the
> appearance of mature panorama APIs (e.g. Pannellum) and client-side routing
> APIs (GeoJSON Path Finder) I have restarted work on OpenTrailView and did
> an initial presentation at FOSDEM 2019 back in February.
>
>
> Since then I have done further work and OpenTrailView, while still
> incomplete, is in a state where I believe it's ready to start receiving
> contributions.
>
>
> It's available at
>
> https://www.opentrailview.org/
>
>
> You can get an idea of how it allows you to 'walk' along OSM ways by
> navigating in the default area (Southampton Common). There are also some
> panoramas available close to Fernhurst, West Sussex (lat 51.05, lon -0.72).
> There's a Nominatim search available if you switch to 'map' mode (see the
> map icon).
>
>
> If you signup and then login, you can contribute your own 360 panos.
> Obviously follow the usual privacy considerations (no faces, no car number
> plates) - panos will be moderated before they go live to ensure they do not
> have any privacy violations amongst other things.
>
>
> The key thing about this version is that it will use underlying OSM data
> to auto-connect panoramas. This was not done on any previous version.
>
>
> However, note that while the site will accept panos anywhere in the world,
> at present, the auto-connection facility will only work in *Europe* plus
> Turkey (I am using the Europe Geofabrik extract), as my server currently
> only stores European data. Nonetheless I have had a possible offer of
> helping with hosting costs so expansion to the entire world could well
> happen soon.
>
>
> The maps provided are rather basic, showing only highways, coastlines and
> a few selected POIs, this is due to server capacity constraints. If anyone
> is aware of a tile server I can use legitimately as a replacement, without
> violating the usage policy, please let me know.
>
>
> In similar style to OSM, panos will be copyright 'OTV360 contributors' and
> licensed under CC-by-SA. IANAL but this seems to be the most common
> practice.
>
>
> Do remember once again that this is an unfinished product but it is now in
> a state where I believe it is of interest to contributors.
>
>
> Gitlab: https://gitlab.com/nickw1/opentrailview/
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
>
>
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