[OSM-talk] bus stop

Johnparis okosm at johnfreed.com
Fri Sep 20 18:10:29 UTC 2019

If the bus route does not have fixed stops, it is a hail-and-ride route,
not a fixed-stop route. Public Transport v2 takes both possibilities into

The route relation should include all the road segments involved, and the
relevant segments should have the role:

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hail_and_ride

As to the name vs number, the agreed naming convention is pretty clearly
spelled out in PTv2. Usually something like this:

For the route master ... Bus 2: City Hall <-> Library (or you can use <=>
or ↔)
For one variant ... Bus 2: City Hall -> Library (or you can use => or →)
For another variant ... Bus 2: Library -> City Hall


I have ridden buses in many US cities (although never a hail-and-ride) and
they fit nicely into this format.

The line number itself goes in the ref tag in the route relation.

On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:03 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure this is quite the place for this discussion but Europe also
> has some bus routes that pick up and drop off on request.  Just don't map
> none existent stops.
> Ottawa Canada has fixed stops as do many other locations in North America.
> I suggest you try to map following the wiki map features.  If someone is
> changing your tags then discuss the matter with them as is the traditional
> way to resolve the problem.
> Cheerio John
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 10:46 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk, <
> talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>> europe vs. united states,
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform
>> 1. does not match the way we catch the bus in the usa and the fields are
>> to strict.
>> 2. is a place where i will stand to catch the bus, sign or no sign etc.
>> 3. the map point reflects the area and stops are not set in stone but is
>> based on a driver etc.
>> 4. bus stops are numbered routes as on the sign, the fields do not
>> reflect or allow for this, just the name,
>> the standard web edit map reflects points not route lines, google puts in
>> a no. not a line.
>> looking at a map numbers are more important than names and not all stops
>> have names like
>> someone's driveway.
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