[OSM-talk] bus stop

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Fri Sep 20 22:44:51 UTC 2019


If a bus stop sign has a number, you can add this to the highway=bus_stop
node with ref=*

BTW, I wouldn’t call “hail and ride” part of tyr public_transport proposal.
As the link shows, it’s clearly a separate proposal. But it sounds
sensible, and I agree that if a route has no fixed stops it makes sense to
just create a route relation and only add the first and last stop as
highway=bus_stop.

That’s what works here in Indonesia, where most local buses will pick up or
drop off passengers anywhere along the route.

Joseph

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 3:14 AM Johnparis <okosm at johnfreed.com> wrote:

> If the bus route does not have fixed stops, it is a hail-and-ride route,
> not a fixed-stop route. Public Transport v2 takes both possibilities into
> account.
>
> The route relation should include all the road segments involved, and the
> relevant segments should have the role:
> hail_and_ride
>
> See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/hail_and_ride
>
> As to the name vs number, the agreed naming convention is pretty clearly
> spelled out in PTv2. Usually something like this:
>
> For the route master ... Bus 2: City Hall <-> Library (or you can use <=>
> or ↔)
> For one variant ... Bus 2: City Hall -> Library (or you can use => or →)
> For another variant ... Bus 2: Library -> City Hall
>
> etc.
>
> I have ridden buses in many US cities (although never a hail-and-ride) and
> they fit nicely into this format.
>
> The line number itself goes in the ref tag in the route relation.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019 at 5:03 PM john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure this is quite the place for this discussion but Europe also
>> has some bus routes that pick up and drop off on request.  Just don't map
>> none existent stops.
>>
>> Ottawa Canada has fixed stops as do many other locations in North America.
>>
>> I suggest you try to map following the wiki map features.  If someone is
>> changing your tags then discuss the matter with them as is the traditional
>> way to resolve the problem.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 10:46 AM 80hnhtv4agou--- via talk, <
>> talk at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>> europe vs. united states,
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dplatform
>>>
>>> 1. does not match the way we catch the bus in the usa and the fields are
>>> to strict.
>>>
>>> 2. is a place where i will stand to catch the bus, sign or no sign etc.
>>>
>>> 3. the map point reflects the area and stops are not set in stone but is
>>> based on a driver etc.
>>>
>>> 4. bus stops are numbered routes as on the sign, the fields do not
>>> reflect or allow for this, just the name,
>>>
>>> the standard web edit map reflects points not route lines, google puts
>>> in a no. not a line.
>>>
>>> looking at a map numbers are more important than names and not all stops
>>> have names like
>>>
>>> someone's driveway.
>>>
>>>
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