[OSM-talk] It's time to manage libraries properly in OSM

[Andrew Harvey]

When I think of access=customers, I think of toilets inside a restaurant,
or a parking lot outside a pub you can only usually access as a customer,
so only things that are inside other things. The restaurant itself or the
pub wouldn't normally have the access tag. But I guess for an institutional
library only open to students I guess you could say they are "customers" of
the university, it's just a bit less clear.

On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 11:29, Warin <61sundowner at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 21/4/20 10:44 am, Andrew Harvey wrote:
>
> Agreed that we could do better, see the proposal process for new tags
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal_process.
>
> Currently we can already mark if the library is open to the public on not
> (access=yes means open to the general public), but it's unclear how say a
> school library or library restricted to attendees of an educational
> facility like a university should be tagged (is it access=private since
> only those people attending the institution have been given permission?
>
> access=customers?
>
>
> You can mark the operator of the library with
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator, which might be the
> local municipality/government/council, or might be the school or university.
>
> You can mark the operator type with
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator:type eg public, private,
> government, religious, ngo, community, consortium, cooperative.
>
> There are open questions similar to yours at
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=library#Types_of_libraries
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2020 at 06:04, Christian Rogel <
> christian.rogel at club-internet.fr> wrote:
>
>> We are generally aware of the importance of the libraries, as they are
>> numerous and useful by their variety (public, academic, specialized,
>> school…).
>> But, why they have been so neglected by us, the mappers, seing them on
>> the ground, getting maybe frequently in ?
>> So poors are the tags for describing them.
>>
>> Yes, you can add the address, the phone, the opening hours and a few
>> precisions. See ameniy = library
>> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dlibrary>
>> But, you cannot indicate which public is admitted, if most of the
>> collection is visible, which kind of documents is displayed and/or lended,
>> and so on…
>>
>> I suggest that every person capable proposes some categorization and
>> enriches the wiki page above.
>>
>> From a few hours discussion on the French OSM list, we were looming
>> around using «  library:for = {public targeted} and library_collection.
>> But, there are more than 2 angles in library and information services.
>>
>> Note : a map of the libraries in the world
>> <https://librarymap.ifla.org/map> was launched years ago by the
>> International Federation of Library Associations (IFLA), but we do not see
>> any location, the figures per countries only.
>> Let us remember the huge number of 2.6 M libraries registered. The French
>> version on Google Map displays 162 locations.
>>
>> 81 500 *amenity=library* are  present in OSM database today
>> <https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=library#overview> 20
>> apr. (5 500 in France). We can reach a richer content.
>>
>>
>> Christian Rogel
>> Retired chief librarian (France)
>>
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