[OSM-talk] Funding of three infrastructure projects : Nominatim, osm2pgsql, Potlatch 2

Joseph Eisenberg joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com
Tue Aug 4 13:55:52 UTC 2020


We should not ask anyone to do 2 months development work for 2500 euros.

I believe this size grant is only enough for 1 to 2 weeks, based on
international prices (though
I do not have any paid experience in this field)

- Joseph Eisenberg

On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 4:08 AM pangoSE <pangose at riseup.net> wrote:

> I disagree. For that sum of money I would be willing to start writing a
> new editor in Rust compiled to WebAssembly and desktop and reach a state of
> basic editing useability in 2 months.
> See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohuTy8MmbLc
> Cheers
>
> Joseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenberg at gmail.com> skrev: (3 augusti 2020
> 01:00:49 CEST)
>
>> While the benefit of making Potlatch 2 on AIR is small, the cost is tiny.
>>
>> 2500 Euros is an insignificant price to pay for supporting an editor
>> which is still used by a couple of thousand long-term users.
>>
>> I support this expenditure.
>>
>> – Joseph Eisenberg
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 2, 2020 at 10:05 AM Alexandre Oliveira <rockytvbr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd like to share my two cents on the matter of supporting Potlatch 2,
>>> an editor built with (now) dead technology.
>>>
>>> I don't think it's worth spending money to update P2 to Air. As others
>>> have stated, Air has been discontinued as well, and it was developed
>>> by Adobe, probably with the same amount of security flaws as Flash
>>> had, which contributed to its demise. I don't see Air as different
>>> even though it's being maintained now by Samsung.
>>>
>>> Just take a look. The web is different than when P2 released; flash is
>>> deprecated and a synonym for vulnerable systems, Air tried to take off
>>> but now it's just another dead technology. What are the benefits of
>>> porting P2 to Air? It may be easier because Air may share some code
>>> with Flash, which in turn makes it easier to port to.
>>>
>>> However, I think that the OSMF should find someone familiar with Flash
>>> and look forward to porting P2 to modern web technologies (please not
>>> Electron!), like WebAssembly or Web 2.0. Be it JavaScript,
>>> CoffeeScript or TypeScript, React, Angular, Vue.js or any other modern
>>> web tech, it doesn't matter. I think it's going to be money well spent
>>> if P2 was ported to a supported web technology and not something that
>>> died a few years ago and is on life support, and barely anyone uses it
>>> nowadays.
>>>
>>> IMO porting P2 to Air is just a waste of money and time from the
>>> developer, and we will reach the same point in the future, be it
>>> either for deprecating P2 or looking to port it to newer web
>>> technologies. OSMF should prepare for the future and not continue
>>> using deprecated technology.
>>>
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