[OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

Simon Poole simon at poole.ch
Sun Aug 9 08:36:34 UTC 2020


The "names" in wikidata are mostly the names of WP pages for the object
in question and have little to do with actually existing names (as per
the OSM definition) of places.

It would be a massive drop in quality if we would do the proposed switch.

Simon

Am 09.08.2020 um 10:25 schrieb pangoSE:
> I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating
> names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag.
>
> The rationale is explained here:
> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655
>
> This of course affects the whole project and data consumers as well.
> Every OSM user will have to become a Wikidata user as well to edit the
> names or add name references (through the editors)
>
> Substantial changes will have to be made:
> * nominatim will need to support fetching names from wikidata somehow.
> It could probably be done on the fly.
> * openstreetmap.org will need to fetch from wikidata when displaying
> any object.
> * rendering the standard map will have to support fetching from wikidata.
> * all editors would have to fetch and enable editing of Wikidata objects.
> * maybe it no longer makes sense to have 2 separate logins? We should
> unify the logging in as much as possible. Ideas are welcome on how to
> do that. Perhaps retire signing up as OSM user on osm.org and ask
> users to create a Wikimedia account instead and log in with that?
>
> I personally don't see any problems connecting Wikimedia and OSM
> closer than the islands they are today.
>
> As mentioned in the ticket above data consumers like Mapbox already
> prefer Wikidata names. I'm guessing thats because they are simply
> better quality, better modeled, better referenced and better protected
> against vandalism.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Cheers
> pangoSE
> Ps I choose this list because this not only relates to tagging, but to
> the wider ecosystem.
>
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