[OSM-talk] Roadmap for deprecation of name tags in OSM

pangoSE pangose at riseup.net
Sun Aug 9 08:59:36 UTC 2020


This is a valid concern. What I'm suggesting to solve that is to create a new property "OpenStreetMap name" that can hold names in multiple languages and every single one can be independently referenced.

Cheers

Simon Poole <simon at poole.ch> skrev: (9 augusti 2020 10:36:34 CEST)
>The "names" in wikidata are mostly the names of WP pages for the object
>in question and have little to do with actually existing names (as per
>the OSM definition) of places.
>
>It would be a massive drop in quality if we would do the proposed
>switch.
>
>Simon
>
>Am 09.08.2020 um 10:25 schrieb pangoSE:
>> I suggest we create a roadmap for deprecating of storing and updating
>> names in OSM for objects with a Wikidata tag.
>>
>> The rationale is explained here:
>> https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/19655
>>
>> This of course affects the whole project and data consumers as well.
>> Every OSM user will have to become a Wikidata user as well to edit
>the
>> names or add name references (through the editors)
>>
>> Substantial changes will have to be made:
>> * nominatim will need to support fetching names from wikidata
>somehow.
>> It could probably be done on the fly.
>> * openstreetmap.org will need to fetch from wikidata when displaying
>> any object.
>> * rendering the standard map will have to support fetching from
>wikidata.
>> * all editors would have to fetch and enable editing of Wikidata
>objects.
>> * maybe it no longer makes sense to have 2 separate logins? We should
>> unify the logging in as much as possible. Ideas are welcome on how to
>> do that. Perhaps retire signing up as OSM user on osm.org and ask
>> users to create a Wikimedia account instead and log in with that?
>>
>> I personally don't see any problems connecting Wikimedia and OSM
>> closer than the islands they are today.
>>
>> As mentioned in the ticket above data consumers like Mapbox already
>> prefer Wikidata names. I'm guessing thats because they are simply
>> better quality, better modeled, better referenced and better
>protected
>> against vandalism.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Cheers
>> pangoSE
>> Ps I choose this list because this not only relates to tagging, but
>to
>> the wider ecosystem.
>>
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